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nothing shows Hitchens’s continuing fidelity to the Bolshevik ideal more than his hatred for religion. He told the Guardian on May 31, 2005, “I can’t stand anyone who believes in God, who invokes the divinity ... I mean, that to me is a horrible, repulsive thing.”
1 posted on 09/30/2005 10:00:18 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

How did this piece slip into the American Unconservative? For Pat Buchanan, neocon is nothing more than a code word for GOP Jews.


2 posted on 09/30/2005 10:07:21 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Tolik; neverdem

NAILED it! ping


4 posted on 09/30/2005 10:10:47 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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If adversity to religion is considered, you can find a plethora of people right here at FR who are extremely hostile to Christianity. Therefore, this author would condemn them, too, like he did Hitchens, right?

Like David Horowitz, Christopher Hitchens knows the Left inside and out. Therefore I find him very useful.


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5 posted on 09/30/2005 10:15:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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The words Hitchens had for President Reagan upon his passing were despicable. I haven't cared too much for his input since then.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 10:17:42 PM PDT by Rastus (Year 7: Harry Potter and the Heartbreak of Psoriasis)
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Martin Amis’s Koba the Dread, a masterful account of the mass murder with which the Bolsheviks busied themselves after seizing power in October 1917.

A really good read, the Bolsheviks were really a sad lot.

7 posted on 09/30/2005 10:22:12 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Hmm. I admit to not knowing much about Hitchens but his name.

But I admit, I watched him completely evicerate Galloway in that debate they had, and...I didn't know the guy was a Trotskyite...

Hell, I nearly thought of him as a personal hero the way he stuck a pin in that bag of obnoxious hot air, Galloway...


9 posted on 09/30/2005 10:23:38 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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I know there are a few atheists on this forum. According to you, are they Bolsheviks too?


10 posted on 09/30/2005 10:25:24 PM PDT by indcons (How about rooting for our side for a change, you liberal morons?)
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This is really quite a good and insightful piece. I have liked Hitchens ever since he came out slugging somewhere in the middle of Clinton's reign of terror. I was always aware of his Leftist "past" and how much of it he still carried/carries around with him, but this essay really dealt with it all comprehensively and chronologically. Hitch is so powerful a spokesman for "the Right" to some degree BECAUSE he still has within himself sizable quantities of Leftist conceit, duplicity, and wishful thinking. Leaving some of this baggage behind is a process Hitchens will go through as a way of dealing with himself as an engaged intellectual in the postwar European sense, alive in this moment of history.I have full faith that he will change and change some more, as the author also shows he does, in his final sentences. What I would really like to see is a debate between Hitchens and David Horowitz , also a former Leftist who has more thoroughly shed his bad habits of thought and mind than Hitchens has. It will probably never happen, because it would lapse into too much subtlety too quickly to be of interest to more than a few hundred people in the English=speaking world. For the time being, we will have to be content to see how Hitchens currently deals with the likes of George Galloway, with Galloway serving as a stand-in for the nearly dead Hitchens of the past, who remembers that some of his allegiances and judgements about the geopolitical scene were not always as "Right" as the ones he holds today.


13 posted on 09/30/2005 10:30:01 PM PDT by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest".....)
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Hitchens is such an anti-Christian bigot that he served as one of the official avocati diavoli for Mother Teresa's canonization.

And the sight of Pat Buchanan's mouthpiece calling someone "bigoted" is pretty hilarious.

17 posted on 09/30/2005 10:37:01 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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I watched the Galloway-Hitchens dog and pony show the other day on C-Span. Since both of them revolt me, it was a bit weird. Entertaining, though. At least they can use the English language, although Galloway descends into vicious name calling routinely to make a point. An ordinary demagogue at his worst.

But Hitchens kept referring to his credentials as an Internationalist, which, since everyone here is into "code words", means Trotskyite.

So he admits it, and does so in an approving manner about aggressive war, as long as it's for "a good cause".

All doubts about what he really stands for were erased for me by that. No one should think that it's just name calling.

20 posted on 09/30/2005 10:46:11 PM PDT by Regulator
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Needs a strange bedfellows alert.

The Communist Parties worldwide protested to save Saddam Hussein's regime.


And paleo-cons cheered them on.

Now they are dissing Hitchens for standing up for the oppressed of Iraq.

Why dont they save their red-baiting for, say, ANSWER or William Kunstler, or Cindy Sheehan roving band of leftist fellow travellers?


23 posted on 09/30/2005 10:57:18 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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Hitchens isn't a "neo-con", or any kind of a Con for that matter.
He is hawkish on foreign policy and terrorism,period.
He is still a Trotsyite at heart.
He wrote a vile book about Mother Theresa and an even worse one about the Pope.


34 posted on 09/30/2005 11:20:47 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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I can understand some appreciating Hitchens for arguing on the right side of some issues, including the Iraq war.

However, I can understand being extremely bitter toward him for many things he has said in the past on other issues.

I won't trust him until he says he was wrong on those things. He has done much harm in the past. Until he repents he is not to be trusted.

35 posted on 09/30/2005 11:20:56 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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Hitchens is an atheist. So what? Does that negate the validity and logic of his political arguements? I hope your intellect is not as stunted as your posts imply.


41 posted on 09/30/2005 11:48:19 PM PDT by Maynerd
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Hitchens is entertaining.

Sometimes I can look beyond what I don't like.

I do the same with Vanessa Redgrave as an actress.

but I can't with most


43 posted on 09/30/2005 11:52:53 PM PDT by wardaddy
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bttt


44 posted on 09/30/2005 11:53:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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I would like to see him delivered and saved. I pray for him. It's surely is not easy walking around hating God and his people. It is for the likes of him (as well as all of us) that Jesus died. I use to be a Christian mocking atheist because I thought Christians naive and simple but I never hated them. I actually wished that I could be so "stupid" as to gain comfort from a fairy tale. If you don't believe that God exist what is the point of hating those that do?


50 posted on 10/01/2005 2:49:27 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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I would like to see him delivered and saved. I pray for him. It's surely is not easy walking around hating God and his people. It is for the likes of him (as well as all of us) that Jesus died. I use to be a Christian mocking atheist because I thought Christians naive and simple but I never hated them. I actually wished that I could be so "stupid" as to gain comfort from a fairy tale. If you don't believe that God exists what is the point of hating those that do?


51 posted on 10/01/2005 2:55:48 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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Whaaaa! HITCHENS is such an effective speaker for Freedom and Liberty. He makes us Moveon.org "conservatives" look like the mentally incompetent isolationists wannabees we are. WHAAAAA, we must tear him down to justify our own pathetic inadequacies as thinker. WHAAA! What a bunch of pathetic losers the Moveon.org "conservatives" are. Cannot argue the merits of the case so you steal a tactics for your fellow travelers on the Hysteric Left and attempt to assassinate a man's character instead. Tactics of scum, not intellectuals. Shame on you clowns.
52 posted on 10/01/2005 3:02:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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Ah yes Religion, the last refuge of the bankrupt political ideologue. Unable to defeat Hitchens ideas on the merits, the Neo-isolationist of the Moveon.org "conservatives" suddenly discover RELIGION, as a rational to cling to their intellectually bankrupt Isolationist dogma. Pathetic and weak even for your lot.


56 posted on 10/01/2005 3:14:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't get stuck on stupid now, reporters)
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