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Ice Age Engravings Found In Somerset (UK)
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 8-18-2005

Posted on 08/18/2005 2:47:54 PM PDT by blam

Ice Age engravings found in Somerset

Press Association
Thursday August 18, 2005
The Guardian (UK)

A series of rare engravings, believed to date from the Mesolithic period, 10,000 years ago, have been discovered in a cave in Somerset. The three abstract squares, thought to have been made with stone tools, were found in Long Hole cave in Cheddar by the University of Bristol Speleological Society.

The find follows the discover of ancient inscribed crosses at nearby Aveline's Hole cave in February this year.

Experts have not been able to determine the meaning of the engravings yet, but say they are extremely important and one of only three examples of this kind of art to be discovered in Britain.

The society's team leader, Graham Mullan, said: "These engravings are not awfully exciting if you're into high art - they are three bunches of straight lines.

"But they are very important because we think they were created just after the end of the Ice Age.

"This period was very interesting as the environment was heating up and changing and this was affecting the types of animals living in the area.

Aveline's Hole, close to the cave, is believed to be the earliest scientifically dated cemetery. Some 20 skeletons, dating back between 10,200 and 10,400 years, were taken from the cave by the society in 1914. They were stored at Bristol University, but destroyed during a second world war raid.

Bob Smart, of Cheddar Caves, said: "We are delighted by this new discovery which is an excellent example of the importance Cheddar caves held for our ancestors."

The speleological society's research into the engravings is being carried out with the British Museum's department of prehistory and Europe.

Jill Cook, the deputy keeper in the department, said: "The new engravings are clearly ancient and comparable to early post glacial pattern panels found elsewhere in Europe.

"Their discovery will help breathe new life into this period."


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KEYWORDS: age; cheddar; cheddarcaves; engravings; found; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; ice; man; somerset
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1 posted on 08/18/2005 2:48:00 PM PDT by blam
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Cheddar Man

Descendant of Stone Age skeleton found

LONDON (Reuter) British scientists Saturday celebrated their feat of tracing a living descendant of a 9,000-year-old skeleton and establishing the world's oldest known family tree.

In an astonishing piece of detective work, they matched mitochondrial DNA material extracted from the tooth cavity of Britain's oldest complete skeleton with that of a 42-year-old history teacher, Adrian Targett.

The genetic material showed without doubt that Targett is a direct descendant through his mother's line of the skeleton known as Cheddar Man, which was found in 1903 in caves in Cheddar Gorge in southwest England.

"It is extraordinary that the DNA survives at all, but we were able to extract it and sequence it," said Bryan Sykes of Oxford University's Institute of Molecular Medicine. "They would have shared a common ancestor about 10,000 years ago, so they are related."

Targett lives about a kilometer from the caves where Cheddar Man was found. Previous tests have shown that Cheddar Man suffered a violent death at the age of about 23 in 7150 B.C.

The Oxford University team spent months analyzing samples from the skeleton before taking DNA swabs from about 20 local people whose families had lived in the Cheddar area for generations.

Targett, who teaches modern history, said he took part only to make up the numbers.

"I was astonished when the scientists said I was the descendant. Appropriately enough, I am a history teacher, but I have to admit I know next to nothing about Cheddar Man. I suppose I really should try to include him in my family tree," he said.

Targett can now boast a lineage millennia older than that of Britain's royal family, which traces its heritage back to A.D. 829.

The oldest previously recorded relative was the great-great-great-great-grandfather of Confucius, who lived in China in the eighth century B.C.

Scientists said the odds of finding a match were not as enormous as might appear, because of the relatively small number of people who lived in Britain during the Stone Age. Sykes said the discovery strengthened the theory that the ancestors of modern-day Britons were hunter-gatherers rather than farmers.

"There has been an idea that most modern European are descended from farmers that came in from the Middle East about 10,000 years ago, reaching Britain about 6,000 years ago," Sykes told British Broadcasting Corp. radio. "This kind of evidence shows that is probably not true, and that modern Britons are in fact descended from the earlier inhabitants like Cheddar Man who existed on hunting and gathering and who were not farmers."

Scientists said they were hoping to use the same technique of sampling mitochondrial DNA to prove whether Neanderthals, who died out about 25,000 years ago, were linked to modern humans or were a completely different species.

Professor Chris Stringer, a researcher at the Natural History Museum, said, "This work may finally let us end a 150-year-old argument which has existed since a Neanderthal man fossil was first found."

Targett, an only child who has no children, was still coming to terms with the idea of having a Stone Age man as a relative.

But his wife, Catherine, said, "Maybe this explains why he likes his steaks rare."

2 posted on 08/18/2005 2:51:18 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


3 posted on 08/18/2005 2:51:52 PM PDT by blam
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I would think everyone alive would have a stone age caveman (of sorts) as a relative.

Just not identified.


4 posted on 08/18/2005 2:56:15 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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cool!


5 posted on 08/18/2005 2:57:33 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Mine is Fred Flinstone


6 posted on 08/18/2005 2:58:56 PM PDT by Feiny (Posting without spell checking for 5 years now.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Or Captain Caaaaaveman!!!


7 posted on 08/18/2005 3:01:01 PM PDT by Feiny (Posting without spell checking for 5 years now.)
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To: blam
The genetic material showed without doubt that Targett is a direct descendant through his mother's line of the skeleton known as Cheddar Man,

Obviously Targett can't be a direct descendant through the female line (by which mitochondrial DNA passes) of Cheddar Man.

As the article later points out they must share a common female ancestor.

8 posted on 08/18/2005 3:02:32 PM PDT by wideminded
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"Cheddar Man suffered a violent death at the age of about 23 in 7150 B.C."

When's the lawsuit coming?


9 posted on 08/18/2005 3:02:55 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Targett, an only child who has no children, was still coming to terms with the idea of having a Stone Age man as a relative.

Guess this is the end of this Stone Age linage.

10 posted on 08/18/2005 3:06:42 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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Cheddar man


11 posted on 08/18/2005 3:08:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sicked and tired!)
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To: blam

They'll translate into warnings of global warming.


12 posted on 08/18/2005 3:08:20 PM PDT by FreePaul
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Cheddar Man??? Sounds more like a bad commercial for Kraft Mac-n-Cheese.


13 posted on 08/18/2005 3:09:08 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: blam

BTTT


14 posted on 08/18/2005 3:13:21 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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This IS satire, right?


15 posted on 08/18/2005 3:14:20 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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This is where chedder cheese was invented.

The cheese was named for the area not the area for the cheese.

16 posted on 08/18/2005 3:18:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When I walk into Sanctuary the band plays "Sweet Home Alabama")
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Bush's fault


17 posted on 08/18/2005 3:19:52 PM PDT by RippinGood
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To: blam

I'll bet that the translation will correspond exactly to the current party platform of the Democratic Party.


18 posted on 08/18/2005 4:11:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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"This IS satire, right?"

Nope. I actually saw Mr Targett interviewed once.

19 posted on 08/18/2005 4:56:03 PM PDT by blam
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Thanks Blam.

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20 posted on 08/18/2005 10:03:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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