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Obama's stand against Patriot Act cheered (by librarians)
Bakersfield Californian ^
| 6/25/05
| Carla K. Johnson - AP
Posted on 06/25/2005 9:24:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
And after the cheering finished, they all went "SSHHHHH!" to one another. The convention thus continued. Quietly.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:28:59 PM PDT
by
alancarp
(When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
To: NormsRevenge
U.S. librarians say they have been asked at least 268 times since 2001 to give law officers data about readers, despite repeated Justice Department denials that it is interested in patrons' reading habits. A survey released this week by the American Library Association found the inquiries from law enforcement came formally and informally -- that is, without a formal legal order -- to public and academic libraries. That is despite laws in 48 states and prevailing opinion in the other two that library information is private. A woman stands among the bookshelves in the main reading room of The New York Public Library, December 14, 2004. Photo by Mike Segar/Reuters
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:29:49 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
To: NormsRevenge
The leftist bastards want me to register firearms, and use serialized cartridges --- but they don't want their reading material reviewed?
Oh the hipocricy!
Semper Fi
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:30:13 PM PDT
by
river rat
To: river rat
hipocricy = hypocrisy
Sorry about that..
Semper Fi
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:32:06 PM PDT
by
river rat
To: NormsRevenge; Paul Atreides
Libraries should be "sanctuaries of learning where we are free to read and consider what we please without the fear that 'Big Brother' may be peering over our shoulder," Obama said in the keynote address at the American Library Association's annual conference. I thought they were santuaries for homeless people who are strangers to soap.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:36:04 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
To: alancarp
LOL -- The best laugh I have had all night!!!
WINNER!!!
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:38:36 PM PDT
by
andie74
("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
To: river rat
The leftist bastards want me to register firearms, and use serialized cartridges --- but they don't want their reading material reviewed?Are you implying that you can't read? It's your reading material that's of interest, not the leftist's. The Clarence Thomas hearings are the model for the use of library information.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:38:56 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: NormsRevenge
268 in 42 months --- about 6-1/2 requests every month
nationwide, over ALL library patrons. Boy, I'm real glad that they're protesting this egregious violation of civil rights! Obviously, the public ought to fear the libraries.
After all, the librarians have also opted to defend the right of pedophiles and anybody else wandering in to have free access to smut over their internet terminal, too.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:40:28 PM PDT
by
alancarp
(When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
To: NormsRevenge
I've never understood this issue. What useful information can there possibly be in what the library knows about my reading choices? We have a good local library but they don't have a single book that I can charge out that would cause any one any concern. I can read and copy from (only ten cents a copy) any book in the library and not leave a paper trail.
Large academic libraries might have theses and dissertations but, again, they won't circulate but can be read or copied (paper trail?).
No, the interesting stuff isn't available, Hillie master's thesis and Traitor John's military records, the Congressional Record prior to 1984 or the New York Times online prior to 2001. No, there is more interesting stuff on Cryptome than in my library!
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:43:22 PM PDT
by
Tacis
("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
To: NormsRevenge
Osama? What would you expect?
Oh. Obama.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:46:20 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
To: Tacis
The only thing I can figure is if somebody is looking into building histories, blueprints, photos, layouts and infrastructure-like things that could lead someone to help in planning a terrorist act. That kind of public-records stuff might be more readily available in a library than on the internet.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:50:59 PM PDT
by
alancarp
(When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
To: Tacis
Most libraries have Internet terminals so people can access the Web that otherwise couldn't.
So terrorists can use these terminals for terrorist communications without fear of being monitored. It isn't a trivial thing really.
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:53:10 PM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: Tacis
Aren't there bomb making books in most libraries.....me thinks that's what they'd be reviewing....especially, if it's some Islamic under surveillance.....
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:53:25 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(Our military......the world's HEROES!)
To: goodnesswins
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posted on
06/25/2005 9:55:26 PM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: goodnesswins
Yet another example of a liberal interest group placing its ideology and groupthink ahead of the public welfare. In this case our lives.
To: river rat
"The leftist bastards want me to register firearms, and use serialized cartridges --- but they don't want their reading material reviewed?"Let's take this a bit further. If The IRS wants to pounce on you The Constitution is tossed out the window. But God forbid someone looks cross eyed at a Koran.
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posted on
06/25/2005 10:00:03 PM PDT
by
blackbart.223
(I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
To: river rat
"The leftist bastards want me to register firearms, and use serialized cartridges --- but they don't want their reading material reviewed?"Let's take this a bit further. If The IRS wants to pounce on you The Constitution is tossed out the window. But God forbid someone looks cross eyed at a Koran.
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posted on
06/25/2005 10:01:43 PM PDT
by
blackbart.223
(I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
To: alancarp
lol - hard to find people with a sense of humor around here anymore!
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posted on
06/25/2005 10:03:44 PM PDT
by
al_again
To: alancarp
You need to look at how individual liberties are continually eroded in European countries. Priest being fined for preaching from the bible, etc...
It starts when the masses willingly give away their freedom. Think how the left could use this and then tell me it is a good idea. The patriot act is being used against strip joints in Vegas - hardly the intended target... In a short period of time - it will be used against everyday citizens. The police will use comments such as 'we need to use every tool available to us'.
Don't give up your freedom so easily - it's very hard to get back!
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posted on
06/25/2005 10:10:27 PM PDT
by
al_again
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