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1 posted on 03/05/2005 2:40:18 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Moe bragged too much to his monkey buddies.


2 posted on 03/05/2005 2:49:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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A family of idiots.


3 posted on 03/05/2005 2:57:00 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: beaversmom; Neets; Bitwhacker; Iowa Granny; Peach; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; Raquel
That's why I make it a point not to have chimpanzees over for dinner... They are just so rude.

I wonder if they were playing music by the Monkees? That could do it!

4 posted on 03/05/2005 3:09:35 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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"Chimpanzees have a real sense of right and wrong and fairness and unfairness," said Fouts ....

Too bad they don't have a real sense that a .45 caliber pistol can blow their brains out.

6 posted on 03/05/2005 3:16:24 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Gloria Allred

So that explains it!

8 posted on 03/05/2005 3:21:44 AM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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Where's the PC crowd when you need them. Suddenly, all chimps are bad. I think there's a lot of chimp-o-phobia going on here.


9 posted on 03/05/2005 3:26:24 AM PST by Jagman (Bedtime for Bozo should have won an Oscar!)
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Basic question is how did they get out in the first place? There is the possibility that they were released to participate in the party, a well meaning but stupid move. But consistent with treating a chimp like a human. They are not.

But that should come out in the investigation.


12 posted on 03/05/2005 3:31:39 AM PST by KeyWest
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Monkeys and baboons are known to kill women and children in Africa. I hate them...their "press" is overrated...

Usually, when the crops of maize are ripe, the monkeys/baboons raid the fields. The Africans post men in the fields because the monkeys will badly harm anyone smaller than a large man. But sometimes they would even attack a single man...

During harvest season, our priest, who had a legal rifle, would go out and shoot baboons and the locals would hang the corpses near the rocks where the baboons would hide...then usually they'd leave the crops alone when they saw a man nearby, usually this would work for a year or two before we'd have to teach them the same lesson over again...


13 posted on 03/05/2005 3:34:39 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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Prayers for the Davis'.

My husband worked with Dr. Fowler at Washington State Univ. in the 90's. chimps are NOT the kind lovable almost humans they are portrayed to be. They are full of emotions and act on them. They are horribly powerful and NEVER to be trusted. The people hubby worked with NEVER turned their backs on them and ALWAYS treated them with the respect that their strength and emotionality deserve. With extreme caution. Even when the chimps would give them sign language names (the chimps would name the humans, yes indeed).

I feel for these people. They were there to see Moe, who likely would never have hurt a member of someone he considered part of his group. The other two, (and Jealousy would have been a factor along with rage and a ton of other stuff)not being part of their group - according to the social rules chimps follow - would have considered the Davis' fair game, outsiders, infiltrators, and worthy of extermination. The male first, then the female human as males chimps consider other males more dangerous.

I really feel for these folks. They did nothing wrong. I want to know how the hell these other 2 murderous animals were ABLE to get out of their cages. Cause with out a doubt, had that happened at WSU, it would have been considered a SERIOUS emergency and the guns would have come out in rather short order. They take a LOT of safeguards to make sure that it doesn't.
14 posted on 03/05/2005 3:42:26 AM PST by Danae (Supporting PETA - People for Eating Tasty Animals)
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16 posted on 03/05/2005 3:50:02 AM PST by samtheman
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Story from CNN--January 8, 2000 about Moe:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/01/08/jailed.chimp/

Moe the chimp's legal woes divide California town chimp

Moe the chimp is behind bars at a wildlife sanctuary and his family is charged with keeping him illegally

January 8, 2000

Web posted at: 11:53 p.m. EST (0453 GMT)

From staff and wire reports

WEST COVINA, California (CNN) -- In a state that has earned a reputation for high-profile trials, the court case near Los Angeles of Moe the chimp has managed to cause considerable commotion.

The proceeding has polarized supporters and defenders of a West Covina couple battling to retain custody of the chimp, accused of biting the tip of a woman's finger off after mistaking it for candy.

La Donna and St. James Davis, accused of illegally keeping the chimp in their California home, went to court Friday for an arraignment hearing, but did not enter the building.

Instead the couple, who kept Moe in their home for more than 30 years, stayed outside with a group of supporters.

Their attorney Gloria Allred said she did not bring the Davises into court because prosecutors did not have a signed arrest warrant.

Inside, Allred addressed a complaint containing almost 40 misdemeanor charges against her clients -- including numerous counts of maintaining a wild animal without a permit.

The judge in the case dismissed the prosecution's first filing as too vague.

"Now they come back with 39 counts. So this appears to be punitive. This appears to be retaliatory," Allred said.

The judge directed prosecutors to file an affidavit for a warrant for the couple's arrest. The next hearing is set for February 22.

The Davises brought Moe home with them from East Africa more than 30 years ago after his mother was killed by poachers.

For 30 years, officials approved a permit for the couple to keep Moe, who learned to perform tasks like brushing his teeth and using utensils.

But the last permit expired two years ago and the chimp's legal troubles began. The chimp escaped while crewmen worked on his cage, the Davises said. Moe's conduct then landed them in court.

A police officer and animal control officer were maimed and a woman had a third of her finger bitten off, according to prosecutor Michael Capizzi.

"This is a wild animal. It's a dangerous animal, and it's a threat to the safety of the people of West Covina," he said.

As for the woman's' bitten finger, the Davises contend the chimp they consider a son mistook her false red nails for candy.

Moe's legal woes have spurred his neighbors to action. Since Moe was removed from the Davis home in September, they have launched a petition drive.

But Martine Collette, president and founder of the Wildlife Waystation, where Moe now resides, said the animal is wild and should not be returned.

"There isn't an individual who will not tell you, a professional in the field of chimps, that is going to tell you that chimps are safe to be around at that age; they're not. They're very dangerous."

25 posted on 03/05/2005 4:18:14 AM PST by beaversmom (Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming)
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.45 cal revolver? Possible, but extremely unlikely. I wonder what else they got wrong.


27 posted on 03/05/2005 4:22:23 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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Davis, 62, who remained in critical condition Friday at Loma Linda University Medical Center, was badly disfigured. According to his wife, he lost all the fingers from both hands, an eye, part of his nose, cheek and lips, and part of his buttocks. His foot was mutilated and his heel bone was cracked.

"They don't think he's ever going to be the same," LaDonna Davis said...

There's your understatement of the week award winner.

28 posted on 03/05/2005 4:28:44 AM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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I beleive this. I work with monkeys.


31 posted on 03/05/2005 4:35:04 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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Oh...I thought this was about the Democrats...


37 posted on 03/05/2005 4:55:41 AM PST by kittymyrib
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Davis, 62, who remained in critical condition Friday at Loma Linda University Medical Center, was badly disfigured. According to his wife, he lost all the fingers from both hands, an eye, part of his nose, cheek and lips, and part of his buttocks. His foot was mutilated and his heel bone was cracked.

"They don't think he's ever going to be the same,"


47 posted on 03/05/2005 5:30:00 AM PST by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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Whoa! Hey, most of my friends and co-workers are primates. Should I be concerned?


52 posted on 03/05/2005 5:46:00 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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"Get your hands off me you d@mn stinkin' ape"
57 posted on 03/05/2005 6:08:21 AM PST by keithtoo (Defeat Le' Partie' Democratique)
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I thought this was going to be an article about the recent woes at the DNC.


59 posted on 03/05/2005 6:15:23 AM PST by IronJack
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This story hardly fits the picture drawn of chimps by Jane Goodall as lovable, human-like animals.
62 posted on 03/05/2005 6:48:04 AM PST by quadrant
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