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Centuries' Old UFO Coin Remains Mystery
PRWEB ^ | January 28, 2005 | Donn Pearlman

Posted on 01/29/2005 5:10:32 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece

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To: floridarolf
Huh? You think it means I pray this (=the coin) will multiply through you (=the other gambler)

You are just making that up!

The latin words for "pray" are intecedor, peto, posco,adoro, oro, and supplico.

The latin for "to multiply" is "multiplico, cresco or augeor"

Haes means "fixed in place, lingering, clinging (like velcro)" from the verb haereo.

Auctor means "creator, maker, father"

Colam means "to a place called Cola, or a coloring, or to a place He has designed".

How did you make that translation, anyway? You should use a LOL tag when you're joking around.

61 posted on 01/29/2005 7:29:46 AM PST by demoRat watcher
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To: csvset

A coke inspired song if there ever was one. I always wondered what the hell it was about.


62 posted on 01/29/2005 7:30:55 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

It's the hubcap from a 1678 citroen.


63 posted on 01/29/2005 7:36:36 AM PST by scouse
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To: floridarolf
te colam would mean "I worship you, God" but the te attaches to the "aucta" which is the imperative form of create as in "Create it!" (In this case "God, you must create it!"

So, maybe you weren't joking, but I still can't figure out where you got "multiply"...

64 posted on 01/29/2005 7:41:59 AM PST by demoRat watcher
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
A quick look at both sides convinces me that the "flying saucer" is a stylized Sun, loosely modeled on a sunflower. The other side shows rain. That's what crops need, sun and rain.

On the other hand, it definitely isn't a hubcap from a 1678 Citroen, the 1678's had spoke wheels with no hubcaps, so you could change a tire more rapidly.
65 posted on 01/29/2005 7:53:18 AM PST by Woodworker
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Didn't Nostradamus predict this in a quatrain:

"The penis in an alien wheel,
flies through the clouds,
and brings rain to France,
Or God is simply having a little joke, mes amis.


66 posted on 01/29/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by wildbill
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To: demoRat watcher

I read that as "haec" as in "hic, haec, hoc". I have no Latin dictionary here and my schoollatin is very rusty. "Auctare" means to "rise steadily" or "make money". That's where I got the multiply from. I can blame that on the language barrier :)


67 posted on 01/29/2005 8:11:08 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: demoRat watcher

And I think my "translation" makes more sense than yours.


68 posted on 01/29/2005 8:17:07 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: floridarolf
I believe auctare meant "to author" in vulgar latin. Augeor may be what you are looking for if you mean a steady increase (Augment?).
69 posted on 01/29/2005 8:24:25 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief

Auctare is the frequentativum to augere. Like in rising again and again and again...


70 posted on 01/29/2005 8:29:50 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

That looks like a sun dial upside down.


71 posted on 01/29/2005 8:33:28 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (W 1, Now he's been inaugurated, Get Over It Already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: TaxRelief

I think i totally 0wned demoRat watcher with my translation ;)


72 posted on 01/29/2005 8:33:36 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: floridarolf
I don't think it is from auctare but is rather the past participial form of augeo. Cf passage from Clodius Albinus:

Quae familia hodie quoque, Constantine maxime, nobilissima est et per te aucta et augenda...

73 posted on 01/29/2005 8:39:22 AM PST by Blennos (hoste, opto ut seis felicior.)
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To: Blennos

Maybe you're right - that's still along what I figured out the sentence means. I give demorat watcher an "F" for his creative translation.


74 posted on 01/29/2005 8:46:44 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: Blennos
Quae familia hodie quoque, Constantine maxime, nobilissima est et per te aucta et augenda...

Would you please translate?

75 posted on 01/29/2005 8:47:58 AM PST by demoRat watcher
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Seems this coin is not the only one with the disputed image on it:


76 posted on 01/29/2005 8:48:57 AM PST by Between the Lines ("Christianity is not a religion; it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.")
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To: demoRat watcher
A rough translation would be:

Also this family today, great Constantine, a most noble one, has benefited and prospered through you...

The important thing is that the caluse "per te aucta" is used regularly in Latin to mean "prospered through you" and pften addrseed to the ruler (or to a deity).

77 posted on 01/29/2005 8:53:45 AM PST by Blennos (hoste, opto ut seis felicior.)
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To: Christopher Lincoln
Can somebody translate the legend on the back?

"We pees upon your seely flowairs"

78 posted on 01/29/2005 8:54:45 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Perhaps this is a representation of the wheel of fortune; seize opportunity when the wheel turns your way. Would expect to see Fortuna Major somewhere turning the wheel tho.

Or, could it suggest the action of Jupiter Pluvius, or Jupiter Tonans sending rain upon the earth? It would suggest a shield rather than a wheel and the center axel or shaft representing a phallus? Sky father, earth mother? On one side the clouds are gathering, on the other the rain falls on a tree or plant, life, growth, fecundity?

Perhaps the 16 divisions on the wheel represent the constellations and this is some kind of agrarian planting calander (At one time there were more than 12 constellations in the zodiac--no idea of the number in france when this was minted.) I

Could also be a clock with 1 hand divided into 16 periods. Since time was tracked by the passage of the zodiac signs perhaps there was a time in France that they used a 16 hour clock?

Also, cant rule out that the minter created a design that was so unintelligible and unrelated to whatever his subject was that neither his audiance at the time nor scholars in the present can make sense of it. Could have been as obscure to them as us.









79 posted on 01/29/2005 8:54:54 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Allan

fyi


80 posted on 01/29/2005 8:59:18 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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