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High Court Rules Dog Sniff During Traffic Stop OK Without Suspicion Of Drugs
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| 1/24/2005
Posted on 01/24/2005 9:20:02 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Dead Corpse
As a cop I would never tell you that it hasn't happened, although in 28 years I've never seen it. The problem is you make it sound like officers plant evidence WHENEVER someone gives them a hard time and that is false.
To: Modernman
Vibes? Shaking, blushing, and fumbled speech are a good examples.
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:57:18 AM PST
by
m1-lightning
(God, Guns, and Country!)
To: m1-lightning
What's your point? You've missed every point so far by going on meaningless tangents and focusing on irrelevant minutia. The specific state that the defendant or you live in is totally immaterial since we are speaking on the broader, general point of searches.
Guns are illegal in many areas and there is great pressure to make them illegal in many others. The second amendment does not protect anyone since it is not currently "incorporated" by the 14th amendment.
Since gun laws can be created on the local ordinance level, a person driving through to work may pass through several different jurisdictions that all have different gun laws.
The larger point is that many Freepers don't see a problem since this will be used against druggies - a segment of the population they don't like. The problem is that this could easily be used against gun owners (currently or in the future) - a segment of the population that they do like.
To: Lazamataz
We are no longer presumed innocent. That is the part that scares me most.
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:57:49 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
To: Seek
This ruling allows dog-drug searches on the basis of someone acting "nervous." Correction:
This ruling allows dog-drug searches on the basis of a cop later claiming that someone was acting "nervous."
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:58:20 AM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: Lazamataz
In Blythe, California, a city ordinance declares that a person must own at least two cows before he can wear cowboy boots in public.......
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:58:54 AM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
To: Dead Corpse
To: Modernman; blueknight
Vibes? I suppose Astral Projection will be the next substitute for probable cause.
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:59:07 AM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: m1-lightning
You shouldn't carry it loaded. It's against the law. Oh, I see. Guns aren't illegal. It's just carrying a gun in a useful condition that's illegal.
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:59:08 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
To: Modernman; blueknight
Vibes? I suppose Astral Projection will be the next substitute for probable cause.
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:59:08 AM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: cdrw
evidence was either inadmissible or they wanted to keep it secret So it's ok because they might have already illegally searched his house?
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posted on
01/24/2005 10:59:23 AM PST
by
palmer
("Oh you heartless gloaters")
To: blueknight
The problem is you make it sound like officers plant evidence WHENEVER someone gives them a hard time and that is false Dear Blue,
You are probably a good guy, but I'm a biker, and I've been on the receiving end of "vibes".
To: cdrw
It's possible, sure. Wouldn't be the first time, though.
To: george wythe
The friendly relationship between cops and citizens is disappearing rapidly in our country
The police state mentality of our government has destroyed the very fabric of our culture. Prohibition, alcohol or drugs, is the tool of tyrants.
"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Eintein
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posted on
01/24/2005 11:00:06 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Restore the Constitution)
To: Dead Corpse
Drop the crack pipe dude.
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posted on
01/24/2005 11:00:25 AM PST
by
John Lenin
(You have to be a lunatic yourself to appeal to the RAT base)
To: notigar
I stand corrected, and point out that I was in near total shock when I made that earlier post.
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posted on
01/24/2005 11:00:58 AM PST
by
IGOTMINE
(Please arm yourself.)
To: Lazamataz
"... Ginsberg ... saying the use of drug dogs will make routine traffic stops more "adversarial" LOL! Can't we all just get along? It's always going to be adversarial when lawbreakers encounter the law. Good ruling.
To: blueknight
My father was a Deputy for 27 years. He recounted several times when other officers were FIRED for things like drop guns and small stashes of "throw down" narcotics.
Just not paying attention are you....
You might be a good cop. But you are becoming a MINORITY instead of a majority.
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posted on
01/24/2005 11:01:39 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
To: Dead Corpse
Not saying it never happened but you are just creating hypotheticals to support your drug use.
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posted on
01/24/2005 11:02:26 AM PST
by
John Lenin
(You have to be a lunatic yourself to appeal to the RAT base)
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