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The Parties' Flip-Flops on Deficit Spending: Economics or Politics? (It's a must read article)
The Economists' Voice ^ | 2005 | Joe Stiglitz

Posted on 01/04/2005 2:21:39 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi

Not long ago, Republicans were trying to pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. Their worry was that large deficits would hamper growth and prosperity. At the same time, Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, preached deficit reduction too. He saw it as the solution not only to the country’s economic downturn, but also to its more long-term economic problems. Meanwhile, Democrats were skeptical. They believed that deficit spending had brought the country out of the Great Depression, and Democratic economists were overwhelming Keynesians. As such, they feared that raising taxes and lowering government expenditures to try to balance the budget in the face of an economic downturn would have disastrous effects. Then, in the Clinton years, the parties appeared to switch positions. The Democrats’ Rubinomics attempted to rebuts claims of fiscal irresponsibility with the pre-Keynesian Wall Street mantra of balanced budgets. The New Democrats became the defenders of fiscal orthodoxy. And Rubinomics seemed to many to be working: When the economy recovered and experienced what were its perhaps most fabulous decade, the deficit reduction got at least part of the credit. When Bush put forward his agenda of tax cuts for the rich, and when those tax cuts led to massive deficits, Republicans and their economic advisers now claimed that deficits did not matter. (And in supporting the first tax cut, Greenspan seemed less worried about deficits than about the potential surpluses that would mount if taxes were not cut.) What explains the parties' flip-flop? The cynical answer is that they are opportunistic. The real motivating force behind economic policy, on this view, is political — not economic. The hired guns bend with the wind, attacking and defending deficits according to whether they serve political ends. Such cynicism is understandable. But it is also wrong.

When Economists Agree Deficit Spending Works: To Correct Lack of Demand

Indeed, this cynicism ignores a half-century of economic science — one result of which has been that there is an overwhelming consensus among economists about a few basic propositions. And one area of such consensus involves the key circumstances when deficits matter, and when they do not. Suppose the economy is operating below its potential — say, because of a lack of aggregate demand. In that case, an increase in aggregate demand can help the economy. And deficits normally increase demand. That's because the government is spending more money, or because low taxes encourage increased consumer spending — or both. Keynes made this point clear a long time ago — and he is still correct. No wonder, then, that the IMF’s imposition of fiscal stringency in East Asia and Latin America — when those countries already faced a downturn — was a disaster. The IMF policy had the predictable consequence of making the economic downturns worse, turning downturns into recessions, and recessions into depressions. The right prescription for the affected countries was not balancing the budget, but running a temporary deficit to stimulate the economy — as Keynes knew.

When Economists Agree Deficit Spending Hurts: Demand Is Already Sufficient

Now suppose, however, that demand is sufficient to maintain the economy at full employment. In those circumstances, deficit spending may have adverse effects. In the long run, the growth of the economy is limited by its potential — the supply of labor and capital and the advances in technology, what are broadly called "supply side factors." Deficits can hurt because they mean that government expenditures may crowd out private investment. What happens to growth then will depend on how government spends its money. If the money is wasted — or even if it were efficiently spent on, say, military expenditures in Iraq — then growth will be hindered; if the money is spent on high return public investments, such as in education or research, then growth will be enhanced. Of course, globalization means that America can borrow what it needs from abroad to finance government deficits. Presumably, then, government borrowing need not crowd out private investment. But deficits still make the country poorer, in the long run, than it would otherwise have been. For more of what the country produces will have to be sent abroad, to repay principal and interest on what is borrowed. Even if the country’s GDP — what we produce — is not lowered, our standard of living will be compromised.

Why the 1993 Recovery Doesn't Disprove These Basic Points

But does America's recovery of 1993 disprove these views about deficit spending? Not at all. The official argument was that deficit reduction allowed lower interest rates; lower interest rates led to more investment; and the increased investment spurred the recovery. But that is unconvincing — largely because it implies a false connection between deficit reduction and lower interest rates. As the last few years have shown, Greenspan had considerable room to lower interest rates with or without deficit reduction. So while lower interest rates may have spurred the recovery, deficit reduction did not. (Indeed, to the contrary, it may have been the case that the economy was already on an upturn, and deficit reduction only slowed the recovery down.) Attempts to link deficit reduction to the ability to lower interest rates are unconvincing. Some may suggest that without deficit reduction, it would have been impossible to lower long term interest rates even if the Fed had lowered short term interest rates, and impossible to let interest rates remain low. But presumably, the Fed could have intervened more directly, by buying up long term government bonds, rather than just buying Treasury bills, as it customarily does.

Of Course, Not All Deficit Spending is Effective — And Bush's is One Example

Of course, some forms of deficit spending are more effective than others. As we noted, the effect of deficits on growth depends on what gives rise to the deficits. Put another way, when borrowing creates deficits, the question is: Where is the borrowed money going? Under President Bush, it's gone to a 2001 tax cut for the rich, and increased military expenditure. But that stimulates the economy much less than other options both in the short run, when there is an insufficiency of aggregate demand, and in the long, when there is not. The proof is in the pudding: Bush's huge tax cut for the rich, in fact, had little effect. (Interestingly, the converse is also true: The Clinton experience showed that raising taxes on the rich does not have the adverse effects that the critics claimed.) And, really, why should anyone have ever expected the Bush tax cuts to stimulate the economy? Is it realistic that a CEO whose take-home pay is reduced from $50 million to $45 million will work fewer hours, putting at risk his company’s well being? Will he appeal for compassion from his Board of Directors as he explains that he could have averted the downturn in the firm’s fortune, had he only worked a little longer, but that loss of $5 million changed his mind? And while he may spend some of the extra $5 million dollars on enhancing his collection if Picasso paintings or European vacations, the fraction of his income that he will spend on goods produced in America is likely to be limited. That’s why tax cuts which increase CEO take-home pay won't have much of an effect. But tax cuts for the poor, conversely, easily could. Now imagine the worker who takes home $50,000, not $45,000, due to a tax cut. The poor — and middle-class — spend more, and save less, than the rich. That means tax cuts for them stimulate the economy more. And tax cuts for the poor were not the only option Bush ignored. Had his deficit meant increased spending on education, or research, the effect might have been very different. What happens in the long run, when there is presumably no insufficiency of aggregate demand, if the deficit arises as a result of tax cuts for the rich? Won’t they recycle those dollars into investments, and won’t that mean that “fears” of deficits crowding out private investment are exaggerated? Not generally. What has held back investment during the past three years is not lack of funds—indeed interest rates have been at an all time low. And even if those getting the tax breaks were to decide to spend more on investment, in our globalized world, there is no reason for them to limit their investments to America. Investors will look where returns are highest—and in the judgment of many investors, this appears to be in China and elsewhere in the developing world. The real long term worry with our long run deficit that has been generated by tax cuts for the rich is that the deficit will also crowd out public investment, such as in education and technology.

The Key to Deficit Spending: Is it Justified Under the Circumstances?

The three basic rules of deficit financing are still true: Run a deficit when there is insufficient demand; try to get the biggest bang for the buck — the most stimulation for the economy for each dollar of deficit spending; and try to spend the money in ways which enhance long term growth and address the country’s basic social needs. Currently, in the U.S. economy, demand is still insufficient, so deficit spending may be warranted. But not Bush's kind of deficit spending. The kind of deficit spending associated with Bush’s tax cuts does not increase the country’s long term economic strength. Rather, it saps it. But other, more constructive forms of deficit spending can be a boon, rather than a burden, to the economy. All this analysis leads to one easy choice, and one hard one. Here's the easy choice: Repeal the tax cut for the rich. It isn't helping the economy — either in theory or in practice. Here's the hard choice, though: When the tax cut is repealed, what should be done with the extra money? Unless that money is spent in well-chosen ways, the economy may not thrive. There are a number of options, and which to put into the mix is a difficult question. Certainly, some of the money should be spent on R&D and education, and some should go to tax cuts for the poor — who have fared so badly during the past few years. The result would be to stimulate the economy, and lay the foundations for long term growth. Some money should also probably go toward reducing the deficit. But until demand has rebounded, it would almost surely be a mistake to eliminate it.

Produced by The Berkeley Electronic Press, 2004


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Joe Stiglitz, the author, is a famous liberal economist and a Nobel Prize Winner. I don't like his way of thinking here expressed, in particular because he mystifies the reasons concerning current US Deficit. But it's interesting the fact that he uses the same arguments of Democratic Party, bumping all at once the progress in National Education realized during the last four years. Nostalgic of Clintonism, just like many other liberal economists, he repeats the old but wrong lesson of John Maynard Keynes, as if the new problems of our complex Economic System could be resolved through the old categories of "Consumption" and "Investment". Keynes, at his time, didn't know the role of Human capital accumulation, the fine tuning of consumption needs, and he missed to consider the powerful role of the supply side politics. Stiglits' article simply shows how liberals have lost the last 30 years of Economic Theory. I'd like to read your opinions.
1 posted on 01/04/2005 2:21:40 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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2 posted on 01/04/2005 2:22:27 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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3 posted on 01/04/2005 2:30:50 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Thanks very much for the article. Stiglitz is a giant in the field and I think it's unhelpful to dismiss him as a 'liberal' - he is a pretty mainstream economist.


4 posted on 01/04/2005 2:37:21 AM PST by Tamberlane
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To: Tamberlane; freespirited; DSBull; orangelobster; billorites; econ_grad; Nick Danger; RWR8189; ...

Is he a giant as an economist? Surely he is not a stupid. But sometimes he lacks of a concrete vision, and he reflects Democtat's pack of lies.


5 posted on 01/04/2005 2:40:43 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

I got about half-way thru the first paragraph before encountering the democratic mantra. No thanks.


6 posted on 01/04/2005 2:44:35 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: alessandrofiaschi
That’s why tax cuts which increase CEO take-home pay won't have much of an effect. But tax cuts for the poor, conversely, easily could. Now imagine the worker who takes home $50,000, not $45,000, due to a tax cut. The poor — and middle-class — spend more, and save less, than the rich. That means tax cuts for them stimulate the economy more. And tax cuts for the poor were not the only option Bush ignored.

Erm, if he's so smart, how come he doesn't understand that the poor don't pay taxes?!?!?!?
7 posted on 01/04/2005 2:50:13 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("Man's character is his destiny" - Heracleitus)
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Put another way, Bush cut all the tax rates, so all taxpayers got a break. Sheesh. Idiocy.


8 posted on 01/04/2005 2:50:52 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool ("Man's character is his destiny" - Heracleitus)
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To: alessandrofiaschi
and he reflects Democtat's pack of lies

That's one way of looking at it, but the fact remains that a long list of Economics and Management luminaries are highly critical of Bush's fiscal policies for the reasons articulated by Stiglitz, and among them are many who would usually be thought of as conservatives.

Let me state right away that I will not be able to delve deeply into debate on this matter. But thanks again for calling the article to my attention.

9 posted on 01/04/2005 3:02:45 AM PST by Tamberlane
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To: alessandrofiaschi

A bit of deficit spending doesn't worry me, but the huge deficits that we have run and the concomitant increases in the national debt are bad in my opinion --- you can see more of my thoughts on our debt situation on my profile.


10 posted on 01/04/2005 3:08:35 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Got as far as: "Where is the borrowed money going? Under President Bush, it's gone to a 2001 tax cut for the rich..."

...and decided there was no reason to read more.


11 posted on 01/04/2005 4:19:55 AM PST by pkok (GW - There's "there" there, thank God!)
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To: alessandrofiaschi
Most American understand the concept of buying a gun on credit when neighbors make death threats. That factor is completely ignored in this piece. Wars have always come with deficit spending.

The switch in attitude about deficits is easy to understand. For 40 years rats spent tax dollars on their priorities. It was easy for Republicans to call for restraint. They weren't getting the money. Now Republicans are spending on our priorities. The rats don't agree with our priorities. Of course they're going to complain. If Republicans were spending on rat priorities rats would not demand restraint.

12 posted on 01/04/2005 4:32:56 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Tamberlane

"That's one way of looking at it, but the fact remains that a long list of Economics and Management luminaries are highly critical of Bush's fiscal policies for the reasons articulated by Stiglitz,"

Nice read but...I noted that it was written in Oct. Since that time the economy and economic indicators have changed quite a bit contrary to what this "prized" panel asserted.

Oil prices are down again in light of the mild weather so far and decrease in demand for heatting oil. I think if this trend holds for a while there will be an even greater pick up in the economy!


13 posted on 01/04/2005 5:54:24 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: alessandrofiaschi
But presumably, the Fed could have intervened more directly, by buying up long term government bonds, rather than just buying Treasury bills, as it customarily does.

What are long term government bonds? Who issues them?

Bush's huge tax cut for the rich, in fact, had little effect. (Interestingly, the converse is also true: The Clinton experience showed that raising taxes on the rich does not have the adverse effects that the critics claimed.)

These assumptions are not known. Clinton reversals, from the Bush Sr attempted reversals, from the supply sided policies of the 80s, were quite mild and gradual. As early as August 1992, there were clear signs of the coming upturn in the economy, that were realized shortly the Clinton election. Eight years later, in October 2000, the coming downturn was already being realized, regardless of who had won that election.

And while he may spend some of the extra $5 million dollars on enhancing his collection if Picasso paintings or European vacations, the fraction of his income that he will spend on goods produced in America is likely to be limited.

This is actually incorrect. While it can be argued from a long versus short term impact view, every extra dollar earned, is almost immediately spent, economically speaking, regardless of where it goes. More money spent on gold hoarded in a buried treasure on a south Pacific island, is more money spent in the economy. Unless those selling the gold stick it in mattress.

Say's law, that supply creates its own demand, still holds true, as does all his other laws. The writers obvious desire to enhance the private economic potential of literature instructures, home economic teachers, and high school band instructors, is not hidden by his use of the word "technology."

14 posted on 01/04/2005 7:57:25 AM PST by jackbob
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The Parties' Flip-Flops on Deficit
Spending: Economics or Politics?


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15 posted on 01/04/2005 9:15:17 AM PST by MeekOneGOP ("Go thru life w/a Bible in one hand, and your right hand on the mouse connected to FR!--Grampa Dave")
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To: alessandrofiaschi
"Mystical references to 'society' and its programs to 'help' may warm the hearts of the gullible but what it really means is putting more power in the hands of bureaucrats." Thomas Sowell"

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16 posted on 01/04/2005 9:20:42 AM PST by Bahbah
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"some should go to tax cuts for the poor — who have fared so badly during the past few years. "

1) The poor don't pay income tax.
2) Since when have the poor done WELL????


17 posted on 01/04/2005 9:29:49 AM PST by international american ((Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.))
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 01/04/2005 9:31:28 AM PST by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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19 posted on 01/04/2005 11:02:29 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Of course Bush cares about the deficit. That's one reason why he cut taxes, to increase revenue. In a more perfect world, we would not even need a deficit. FReegards....


20 posted on 01/05/2005 1:36:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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