Posted on 10/05/2004 7:38:10 PM PDT by Howlin
After-debate discussion here!
Momentume did not shift away from the President Thursday, he was just slowed a bit. Cheney just got out and pushed, and I'll bet some donuts that Dubya will school Kerry on Friday night as well.
You DO realize The policies Cheney defended WERE the President's? Right?
I agree.
It think it was a tacky and overly personal comment..and most people will agree.
BUT it also was dumb in that it emphasized that Cheney is compasionate and understanding of gays, which neutralizes the claims that this administration hates gays and wants to put them in concentration camps.
That was a dumb move by Edwards.
"FOX had best wake up.......I think they are already losing viewers to the internet. They are trying to be TOO liberal these days.......
Making me ill."
I come to the net myself.
I was just saying today that Fox is as miserable as the rest
OMG don't give the the Left any more reason to steal MY pay.
Clean up on 152.
The polls mean NOTHING when they are sandbagged by liberals. This is the year that the media had their polls killed by the loonies on the left who will never learn.
My take on the debates is that it was basically a draw, with perhaps minor lean to the D's. Edwards recited his talking points well, and they were aggressive and on point. Cheney was not as aggressive or forceful as he could have or should have been. He had some good hits, the meeting Edwards for the first time was funny...but he needed to land punches on Kerry not on Edwards. I think there were more than a few missed opportunities. I think he offered a valid defense of the administration, but did not stick to and push the administrations talking points.
The biggest example is flip flop. That is a devastating charge, and Cheney had multiple opportunities to nail it home and missed. He brushed up against it late, but missed some great opportunities. When the question was about the global test and Edwards was talking about Kerry said no veto I thought Cheney was going to unload on him. He didn't. When the followup question was about flip flopping I was almost ecstatic it was such a perfect set up...but it was weak. If Cheney had said, "You asked about the global test and what it means. It means a french veto. The senator said Kerry said there would be no veto...and he's right. Kerry said that. But the point is that Kerry said BOTH. THAT is a flip flop. He wants it both ways."
Another example, Edwards suggested that if neccessary for security purposes we should train Iraqi troops outside of Iraq. Cheney should very briefly and quickly SLAMMED Edwards. Something along the lines of, "Here is a perfect example of them saying they have a plan, and then talking about what this administration is already doing. If he had shown up for work, he would know that Iraqi forces are already being trained in Hungary, Jordan, the UAE and other places." That would have turned their 'we have a plan' BS into a joke.
When Edwards went off on Halliburton, I was very disappointed with Cheney's response. Go to factcheck.org?!? The response should have been something like, "There has always been kook fringes on both sides. This is a prime example of the Michael Moore wackos having taken over the once great democrat party. The inmates are now running the asylum."
When there was a question about partisanship, Cheney had a great opportunity. He should have said something like, "You're right Gwen, there has been a dramatic increase in partisanship. These VP debates are a great example. I've personally sat on this side of the table both now and four years ago. Four years ago it was cordial and polite. We had our policy differences, but we could work together. This year, it is bitter and partisan. It is still me on this side of the table. It is the other side that has changed."
LOL! Edwards is winning in the Foxnews.com poll! ROFLMAO!!!
I'm sure there are quite a few trolls from DU and elsewhere on this forum. I welcome them to lurk; maybe they'll get converted.
The only reason he is a Senator, btw, is because the RINO women in suburban Chicago couldn't believe Salvi voted AGAINST the "assault weapon ban."
I saw Breck girl sticking his tongue out. It also seemed to me that he'd pick up the blue cup when even he realized he was getting steamrolled.
I was thinking the exact same thing, while I watched Edwards hoist both of his young children up for the photo shot after the debate.
That's good to hear. I was toggling back and forth to CBS, and never saw the split.
There's a lesson to be learned about the paper ripping thing: never try an old debater's trick on an old debater.
bugger off troll!!
Forgot to mention something...Why in the bloody world di ANYBODY think that the silky pony was going to whoop up on Big Time? He's freakin' Dick Cheney, baby! Most of the time Edwards looked like a yip dog chewing on a lineman's leg!
Sullivan has joined the Dark Side. He's in lib camp now.
Prairie
Midway through the debate as Cheney waxed eloquently, Edwards had his hands up near his chest, one hand was grasping the other. He looked very weak, almost as if he was in a fetal position. That image kind of says it all!!!!
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