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Michael [Moore] and me-Guess who sat down next to me at the Republican National Convention?
Jerusalem Post ^ | 9-2-04 | SHMULEY BOTEACH

Posted on 09/02/2004 7:23:17 AM PDT by SJackson

Who says that God doesn't have a sense of humor? My regular readers will remember that at the Democratic National Convention, I found myself sitting a few feet from filmmaker Michael Moore. I had been eager to talk with Moore about his positions on Israel, since I had read several negative comments attributed to him. I tried to speak with him, but he turned me away.

But last night at the Republican National Convention, I was working on my laptop from one of the press desks when a Secret Service agent suddenly walked in and told me that the empty seat next to me would now have an occupant. A moment later Michael Moore sat down beside me. He was there to write a column on the convention for USA Today. I shook his hand, welcomed him, and asked him if he was feeling comfortable surrounded by Republicans. He told me that everyone had been friendly and kind to him since his arrival.

A moment later, he was swarmed by the press, until it became such a distraction that they were whisked away by the Secret Service. Suddenly, it was me and him alone, again, this time cordoned off by a Secret Service perimeter, and I had my chance. I leaned over. "Mr. Moore, you were quoted in the New York Times as saying that you place Israel in your own private axis of evil. It was very painful for Jews to read that. Do you stand by the quote?"

"No, I don't," he said. "That quote was taken completely out of context. I believe strongly in Israel's security and Israel's right to defend itself."

"Well, Mr. Moore," I said, "the impression, sadly, is that you're an anti-Semite. That's a shame. However much you and I disagree on the major issues, you shouldn't come across as a Jew-hater. Joe Scarborough even asked me on his MSNBC show whether or not I believed you were an anti-Semite. That's the impression you've been giving. I trust that you are not a Jew-hater. Indeed, I bet you don't consider yourself any kind of hater. So why give that impression?"

He told me, "Of course I'm not a hater, and you would be surprised at just how little you and I disagree on all the issues, and on the Israel issue in particular. I really want to correct that because I am not an enemy of Israel. I should really sit down and do an interview just about this because I want it corrected."

"You know," I said, "there are people who want you to visit Israel so you can see the situation there for yourself."

"I like Israel," he said. "I've visited twice, the first time during the first intifada," he said.

"Well, then you'll know that Israelis are victims, too, and that they have suffered terribly under terrorism. But Jews have the impression that you don't identify with Israeli suffering, that you forget that the Jews have suffered horrific oppression. And that's a shame because it undermines the morality of your message."

He then said something that I did not expect: "I regard the Jewish people as the most oppressed people on earth."

"Then it's important that that be known. Look, Mr. Moore," I said. "I am a political conservative, so I am certainly not on the same page as you. I was deeply critical of your most recent film [Fahrenheit 9/11]. But Bowling for Columbine, your previous film, was important because it brought to light how Americans have incarcerated themselves in a prison of their own making, in a cage of fear. I greatly praised that aspect of your film in my upcoming book on the same subject, Face Your Fear. But you damage yourself and limit your audience by giving the impression that you are a hater of a people who have suffered so greatly."

He said, "After I made Bowling for Columbine, I discovered that Israel has one of the lowest levels of violence – I mean, besides the conflict with the Palestinians – even though there are so many guns around."

Moore and I agreed to a future formal sit-down interview, just as our conversation was interrupted by John McCain, the featured speaker of the evening, whose speech included a sharp attack on Michael Moore as "a disingenuous filmmaker" who grossly distorted Saddam's Iraq as "an oasis of peace." The entire crowd got up, turned around, looked directly at Moore, booing and shouting, "Four more years. Four more years." Even Dick Cheney, sitting across the hall, was pointing at Moore. The boos were so deafening that McCain decided to repeat the line. Moore, laughing nervously, started chanting, "Not four more years. Only two more months."

But only I heard him.

Michael Moore had earned those boos. Amid the many distortions of Fahrenheit 9/11, the most offensive of all was his whitewashing of Saddam's butchery and the portrayal of life under Saddam as something akin to living in Disneyland.

When the booing died down, I leaned over and asked Moore whether he was ashamed or offended. "Nah, I take it all in good humor," he said. "These people are Americans, just like me. They love this country, just like I do. I bet that if we all sat down together, we'd discover just how much we agree on all the issues."

He might think so, but it's unlikely that defending a tyrant is something that anyone sitting in that hall would agree on with Michael Moore.

Throughout the conversation, I went out of my way to be polite and respectful because I wanted to show the difference between people like me who support President Bush out of principle and conviction but believe profoundly in showing human decency to opponents, and the many who support John Kerry simply because they hate President Bush and liken him to Adolf Hitler.

Moore, too, was extremely friendly. He said to me, "It's important that people know that I don't have horns and a tail." Agreed. But that doesn't excuse him for defending and validating mass murderers who behave as though they certainly do.

The writer is a syndicated radio host in the US and author, most recently, of The Private Adam: Becoming a Hero in a Selfish Age.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/02/2004 7:23:18 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I'm surprised the author didn't get sucked into the gravitational vortex created by Moore's body mass.


2 posted on 09/02/2004 7:24:46 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: SJackson
I found myself sitting a few feet from filmmaker Michael Moore.

Did anyone offer you a clothespin for your nose?

3 posted on 09/02/2004 7:24:46 AM PDT by bankwalker (We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.)
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To: SJackson
And you did not kick his fat A$$?



BTW, did he look like THIS?
4 posted on 09/02/2004 7:27:37 AM PDT by gunnygail (Pooping that hot spicy Thai food this morning was SEARED, SEARED into my brain, I tell you.)
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To: SJackson
I found myself sitting a few feet from filmmaker Michael Moore.

Is this several feet from the outer surface or from the gravitational center?

I think the reason Moore is so big is not FAT, it's EGO.

5 posted on 09/02/2004 7:27:40 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: SJackson

"...saying that you place Israel in your own private axis of evil. "

""No, I don't," he said. "That quote was taken completely out of context."

Just what type of context could a quote like that be in ?


6 posted on 09/02/2004 7:28:30 AM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: SJackson
"It's important that people know that I don't have horns and a tail."

choke, cough, spatter....gotta clean my monitor now.

pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

7 posted on 09/02/2004 7:29:50 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: SJackson
[Michael Moore] said, "After I made Bowling for Columbine, I discovered that Israel has one of the lowest levels of violence – I mean, besides the conflict with the Palestinians – even though there are so many guns around."

Wow! An amazing concession, especially since BfC observes (then ignores) the same thing about Canada. Maybe, someday, he'll get it after all...

8 posted on 09/02/2004 7:30:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Numbers Guy

NOAA has advised Michale Moore to travel to the Lesser Antilles in an effort to draw Hurricane Frances away from the Florida coast.


9 posted on 09/02/2004 7:33:09 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("It's just a movie. ... I'd rather go to the bar across the street." - Kid Rock, on Fahrenheit 9/11)
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"...I bet that if we all sat down together, we'd discover just how much we agree on all the issues."

Agree on what--breathing air is good?

10 posted on 09/02/2004 7:33:09 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: SJackson

Priceless!


11 posted on 09/02/2004 7:34:28 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
12 posted on 09/02/2004 7:34:44 AM PDT by SJackson (I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis, John Kerry (who served in RVN) via Ann Coulter)
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To: SJackson
I don't believe this interview ever ocurred. Not for one moment. Michael Moore has demonstrated his boorish manners and loathsome personality publicly beyond measure.

How do I say this?


”Because you are That Disgusting Fatbody, Moore!”

13 posted on 09/02/2004 7:36:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: SJackson

They should have charged for two seats like Southwest Airlines.


14 posted on 09/02/2004 7:38:06 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: SJackson
"I shook his hand"

I Hope he washed his hands with a strong disinfectant afterwords.
15 posted on 09/02/2004 7:38:15 AM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (DNC- "We have made a clone. We shall call him Minnie Dukakis")
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To: SJackson

I am most shocked by the revelation that M&Mboy was protected by Secret Service. I demand that he be billed for this. And that the government notify the public the minute the Secret Service protection is terminated and M&Mboy is easier to get to.. I mean approach... I mean vulnerable. You know what I mean.


16 posted on 09/02/2004 7:38:28 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: SJackson
Micheal Moore lost any credibility he had when he made and released Fahrenheit 911.

Now he's just a liberal lap dog.

17 posted on 09/02/2004 7:39:06 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SJackson
I found myself sitting a few feet from filmmaker Michael Moore.

This must have been a very large room.

18 posted on 09/02/2004 7:39:34 AM PDT by Alouette (My son, the IDF soldier, on guard for Israel)
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To: SJackson
What a disingenuous ass!!!!!!

What he was telling the author was that he is really pretty mainstream but in order to make money he must act like a loony lefty.

either that or

He is a loony lefty that was just pretending to be normal.

19 posted on 09/02/2004 7:42:01 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: SJackson

"These people are Americans, just like me. They love this country, just like I do. I bet that if we all sat down together, we'd discover just how much we agree on all the issues."

Uh, sure, Mikey. Anything you say...

A typical commie tactic is to co-opt topics and language for insertion of radical notions and content. Eight years of krinton should have educated folks to that. Mikey agrees with nothing that is truly American except the broadest (and I mean that both ways) freedom to practice mayhem and sow seeds of destruction for our nation. He lies - what more is needed to know? Dialogue with the left only cedes ground and merit to their cause.


20 posted on 09/02/2004 7:46:14 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (A basic lesson I have taught my children from early childhood - FLUSH THE JOHNS!)
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