Protect Marriage Without Constitutional Amendment

NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, Dec. 26, 2003 | Mike Thompson

[LPM1888]

Try reading some history with "The Pink Swastika" by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. Much detail and contemperanous documentation of the intimate connection between homosexuality and the Nazis themselves and their philosophy.

Trying to paint homosexuals as Nazis just because some Nazis were homosexuals is as ridiculous and deceitful as calling all white southerners KKK members just because some members of the KKK were white and from the south. Your attempts to do so are only destroying your credibility and harming your cause.

It might be advisable to inform yourself before defending homosexual marriage any more.

I am not defending homosexual marriage, I am discussing the most probable future result of current trends. For the record, IMO pursuing a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage is a waste of time and political capital.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Comparing antisemitism and homosexuality will only tend to strengthen the younger generations view of homosexuality as a civil rights vs. bigotry issue.>>

Homosexuality and anti-Semitism are both alike in one sense: homosexuality is not really attraction toward men, it is a form of hatred: in particular, hatred of women ('breeders').

Homosexuality is nothing more than an activity avidly chosen, and it requires no more protection than any other chosen sport. Homosexuality is very much a sporting activity, particularly like golf: both involve plaing with balls and sticks and holes, both require that an individual get into ridiculous outfits and go to special reservations to enjoy them, both cost a great deal of money, both distract the practitioner from time better spent with their (opposite sex) spouses. Both are also forms of recreation that are amazingly unattractive to those who do not participate.

The big difference of course is that, lightning strikes and the occasional ravenous allegator aside, people don't die in huge numbers playing golf. I should add one other thing: both golf and homosexuality are ACQUIRED TASTES.

ON a more serious note. Talk about homosexuality being inborn is simply a lie of Satan: it is acquired through repetative masturbatory fixation over a long period of time. And I, and many millions of people like me, have no intention of standing by and letting a bunch of noble nazis in black robes force me to pay for Larry and Curly's divorce fight over ownership of their pink poodle, Moe. We regard the Supreme Court mandating gay marriage (which is coming) as an intolerable act, which shall be slapped down as harshly as possible within the constitutional confines within we live.

[little jeremiah]

Trying to paint homosexuals as Nazis just because some Nazis were homosexuals is as ridiculous and deceitful as calling all white southerners KKK members just because some members of the KKK were white and from the south.

Actually, pointing out the relationship between homosexuals and Nazism is more like pointing out the relationship between KKK afficiandos and racists.

Not only were a great number of the Nazi elite, as well as much of the rank and file, homosexuals, but their very philosophy was based on a pseudo-mystical mix of racial superiority, phony Teutonic mythology, ersatz "aryan" brotherhood, with a foundation of homo-erotic Greco-militarism.

Add to that connection the Goebbels-like propaganda methods that homosexual activists are shoving down peoples' throats, and utter intolerance (indeed, edging towards criminalization) of legitimate dissent, and VOILA! Homo-fascism.

[scripter]

I'll be back later, bump.

[Federalist 78]

It would be awesome to have 60 or more Republican senators!
Do you think it can happen by 2004? 2008?

The presidential race appears to be a forgone conclusion. Dean is more interested in pulling the nation to the extremely extreme left than winning.

I would be awesome to have 60 senators who understood the U.S. Constitution and upheld their oath of office.

2004? 2008? All depends on:

[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion....Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?

And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric? (Source: George Washington, Address of George Washington, President of the United States . . . Preparatory to His Declination (Baltimore: George and Henry S. Keatinge), pp. 22-23. In his Farewell Address to the United States in 1796.)

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. - James Madison

 

 

[little jeremiah]

Later as in tonight, or later as in another day and another time? Either way, good night and God keep you!


(How's the flu - I hope better!)

[longtermmemmory]

The Nazi's used their politics as cultivating grounds for victims and recruits.

The ONLY way to stop this is via constitutional amendment. I am suprised the defeatists are poping up, very convenient. There are 38 states with DOMAs. There is a VERY HIGH political probability that is WILL PASS. This was posted before why duplicate threads? Could it be that the prior thread was positive that the FMA had to be adopted to stop the homosexuals? Could it be that the homosexuals are seeing their efforts to recruit children thwarted?

[Federalist 78]

That is why it MUST be started NOW going into an election year. It would be an awesome way to MAKE Senators stand on the side of angels FOR which of them want to be the one to say "I reject the people's opinion as to what constitute's marriage."

Nailed it down hard!

[scripter]

Later as in hopefully tonight - just busy. The flu is going away and I almost feel normal. Still haven't left the house except to get the newspaper.

[GrandMoM]

Mike Thompson is author of "Preying In School":

How Homosexuals Recruit Your Kids,

1-866-909-2665.

[azhenfud]

True, but some Legislators are too fearful and avoiding offending Phunny Phranks and his Phag Phriends.

[scripter]

I am not defending homosexual marriage, I am discussing the most probable future result of current trends. For the record, IMO pursuing a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage is a waste of time and political capital.

Your profile and your tagline mentions the facts. If the facts weren't suppressed we wouldn't be having this conversation, but since the facts are suppressed and the media is obviously pro-homosexual in their bias, we need to take drastic measures such as constitutional ammendments to rebut the prevalent pro-homosexual bias.

Some of the facts are that thousands of homosexuals have left the homosexual lifestyle and AIDS targets homosexual behavior. This information is suppressed along with the severe health hazards of the homosexual lifestyle.

For anyone interested:

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links

[longtermmemmory]

But the risk of NOT being re-elected is higher for those who do not support normal marriage.

Voting paterns favor conservatives turning out for their beliefs than for leftists. With the Voter News Service numbers FINALLY being exposed it seems the liberals are in FAR more serious problems. Only 17% of america identifies themseves as liberal. The number of conservatives identifyers went up into the high 30's or low 40's.

"liberal" continues to be rejected and the protection of marriage against deviants like homosexuals is a winning issue.

[longtermmemmory]

it seems the homosexuals are actually scared of the FMA stopping their agenda. hence the posts opposing the amendment. We must have them on the run.

[breakem]

maybe they just think you're boring, redundant, and irrelevant.

[First_Salute]

There is only one Amendment needed at this time, as follows:

The time limit for the Senate to give its advice and consent on all matters proscribed within the body of this Constitution, is thirty days from the instant of the President of the United States making known his nominations and other submissions for such advice and consent under this Constitution. This time limit shall be in effect immediately upon ratification of this Amendment by ...

(so on and so forth).

[little jeremiah]

Well, well, well - what have we here?

Such profound logic you add to this discussion, break them.

Why don't you trot out some facts, figures, studies or authoritative references the way you usually do? Or is childish invective and silly finger pointing while jumping up and down more to your liking?

[Torie]

Well, there are always those old geezer Socratic types around to corrupt the young. You general point is well taken, but certain hard wiring cultural attitudes don't change much as one begins to physically deteriorate from being a 20 something stud. Just look at the massive change in attitudes in this country in our lifetimes regarding race and religion (the latter from a internecine denominational standpoint).

The issue of gay marriage and gay civil unions will either gain traction or fade based on empirical experience. And that is as it should be.

[scripter]

I suspect the percentage of pedophiles is the same in each group.

Unfortunately you suspect incorrectly and have been sold bogus information. Homosexuals, being around 2% (including bisexuals) of the population, account for a third of child molestations. Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

There are some here who may whine about the numbers but have nothing to rebut the information at the above links. We've said over and over that we'd stop posting this information if anybody could demonstrate with credible sources the information we post is incorrect. Still, no takers.

[LPM1888]

Some of the facts are that thousands of homosexuals have left the homosexual lifestyle and AIDS targets homosexual behavior. This information is suppressed along with the severe health hazards of the homosexual lifestyle.

Similar claims can be made for tobacco smokers among others. Many people lead risky lifestyles, some for profit, some for entertainment, some for sexual pleasure. Some of those people are injured, killed, or have their health impaired because of their behavior. and sometimes the rest of us end up paying the bill for their behavior. Limiting someones rights because they are a subset of that group isn't a valid excuse for a Constitutional Amendment.

You haven't done anything to support a reason for why people shouldn't be allowed to live their lives as they please. You have only shown that you disapprove of people who have different sexual orientations than the norm. You have also shown that you believe your disapproval of their lifestyle is sufficent grounds to inhibit their pursuit of Life, Liberty, and Happiness.

In the long run their rights to those pursuits will prevail. Its only a matter of time.