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Protect Marriage Without Constitutional Amendment
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, Dec. 26, 2003 | Mike Thompson

Posted on 12/27/2003 3:08:49 PM PST by Federalist 78

In Massachusetts, historic cradle of American liberties, the state Supreme Court has become the contemporary incubator of libertines, decreeing that the Legislature, like it or not, must draft a law to legitimize homosexual coupling.

In Washington, DC, just a few weeks before, the U.S. Supreme Court had set the predicate for the Bay State's perversion of marriage when it decreed that states may not criminalize private and consensual adult homosexual acts.

Such radical departure from the norms of society has provoked an overriding majority of Americans to demand a constitutional amendment or something to undo what the people see as unwarranted and dangerous mischief by a willful gang of sanctimonious judges Hell bent to turn the culture upside down and inside out.

The President and most Republicans in Congress, being ardent heterosexuals and astute politicians, have threatened to push for Constitutional change and affirm unequivocally that marriage is exclusively for a man and a woman. That course of action, however, is no snap to accomplish.

Two-thirds of the House and Senate must agree on the proposed amendment before submitting it to the 50 states, 38 of which must approve the change before it becomes the supreme law of the land.

There is a faster way to neutralize the black-robed troublemakers: Articulate and use a quaint concept called "Popular Sovereignty," serially postulated by philosophers Thomas Hobbes, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and, most importantly, John Locke, and adopted enthusiastically by American colonists.

Popular Sovereignty is the notion, in Thomas Jefferson's words, that the mass of mankind was not born "with saddles on their back, nor a favored few [born] booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God." (The grace-of-God phrase is a swat at the supreme arrogance of monarchy, a boast still found on British coins [Dei gratia, rex, or, if the ruler is a queen, regina.].)

To the contrary, colonial Americans demanded that any government (whether a republic or a monarchy or any other concoction) must recognize that it may rule only with the authority and at the pleasure of the people.

Even residents of tiny, unsophisticated Pittsfield, Massachusetts, expressed that simple idea powerfully in a resolution they passed in May 1776. "The people are the fountain of power," they proclaimed.

"But precisely because men are not so foolish as to risk being devoured by lions, they will not delegate, and the government therefore will not receive [in Locke's words] an 'absolute arbitrary power,' " wrote Georgetown Professor Walter Berns (Taking The Constitution Seriously, Simon and Schuster, 1987).

"The people will want to put bounds or limits to the powers they hand over." That is, the people will establish a constitution that determines, defines and delineates the specific powers and trust they will extend to the lions.

How would the people know if the trust they had given their rulers had been broken, thus allowing the people to rebel within the framework of a constitution?

Locke's words on that subject were quite readily understood and endorsed by the colonists: When rulers ignore settled law in favor of "inconstant, incertain, unknown, and arbitrary government," then the point of rebellion is reached.

Clearly, when it comes to society's understanding of what constitutes marriage today, settled law is severely being ignored in favor of the uncertain, the unknown and the arbitrary. Even devotees of the homosexual agenda would be hard pressed to disagree with this matter-of-fact assessment.

The people's right to rebel within the framework of the U.S. Constitution is tacitly recognized by every member of Congress, for it is the legislative branch, not the judicial and executive, which directly feels the biennial exercise of Popular Sovereignty (called "elections"). If Congress does not act swiftly and decisively on a major issue, Popular Sovereignty will remove unpopular incumbents and replace them appropriately.

Because of John Locke's influence on the drafting of the U.S. Constitution (although he had died 80 years earlier), Congress is "first among equals."

The document's very drafting sequence indicates this priority, for Article I deals with the legislative branch (Articles II and III, with the executive and judicial branches, respectively).

--While the judiciary cannot control Congress, Congress certainly can control the judiciary. In Article 1, Section 8, Congress has the power to create (thus, the implicit power to eliminate) any federal court beneath the Supreme Court. That power is reiterated in Article 3, Section 1. Congress, it would seem, also may remove lower federal judges who subvert Popular Sovereignty by abolishing the judge's court. The Constitution says a judge may hold office during "good behavior" and that his compensation shall not be diminished during "continuance in office." If there's no office to hold, a judge will be back in private practice or teaching at Harvard Law.

--While the Supreme Court cannot control Congress, Congress certainly can control the Supreme Court by denying it the right to hear certain appeals. (Article III, Section 2: ". . . the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make" [emphasis added].)

If it wishes to expedite and underscore its commitment to Popular Sovereignty and fire a massive shot across the bow of unjust and unjustifiable judges, Congress as soon as possible should convene, draft a bill (not a constitutional amendment), pass it, and submit the legislation at once to the President for what likely would be an immediate signature.

Legislation must contain unmistakable language that 1) marriage and any other permanent, two-person sexual union throughout the United States shall be recognized at all levels of government only if the marriage or union is between a biological, natural-born man and a biological, natural-born woman, and 2) the Supreme Court and, arguably, the entire congressionally constituted judiciary may not review the law.

Meantime, in anticipation of the predictable howls by Laurence Tribe, The New York Times, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Michael Jackson, Rosie O'Donnell, San Francisco's Board of Supervisors, et alia, White House speechwriters should be ready with an appropriate soundbite or two for President Bush's news conference.

Perhaps he could say something like, "How many divisions does the Supreme Court have?" and, "I am referring all questions to my favorite lawyer, John Locke, who is out of town and not expected back anytime soon."

Mike Thompson is author of Preying In School: How Homosexuals Recruit Your Kids, available from Xulon Press, 1-866-909-2665.

More on Preying in School: The world's first referendum on homosexuality was barely 25 years ago, in sunny Miami-Dade County, where in 1977 Florida's official orange-juice saleswoman (and popular country/gospel singer) Anita Bryant led the voters in a thumping repeal of "gay rights" legislation.

At Anita's side as chief political strategist, debater and advertising man was Mike Thompson, a powerful figure in Republican and conservative politics since the mid-1960s.

Now Thompson has packaged a blockbuster and highly readable book on how homosexual activists have opened a new front in their war to demand society's full approval.

"In the midst of a gay-embracing frenzy by bipartisan politicians, the news media, the entertainment world, academia and the other usual suspects," writes Thompson, "there are nevertheless tens of millions of Americans (the familiar Silent Majority) who don't embrace homosexuality. Indeed, they consider homosexuality to be perverse and adverse personal behavior.

"What most of these parents don't realize is that in addition to naïve educators, there are powerful forces inside their children's public schools who skillfully scheme to intimidate heterosexual students into silence or, worse, recruit them into homosexuality itself."

Thompson then lays out factually the strategies and gross propaganda materials employed nationwide by GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, to penetrate classrooms, amazingly, from kindergarten to college level. (GLSEN also organizes after-school sex clubs [Gay-Straight Alliances] that meet on campus to facilitate "safe dating.")

Quoting extensively from the GLSEN-approved study list of special "children's" literature, the author reveals that much of the group's material, if depicted in a movie, would be considered X-rated, obscene and actually constitute child pornography.

Thompson also cites various medical, scientific and criminal-justice sources to debunk a litany of homosexual claims regarding their lives and alleged danger from heterosexuals.

Particularly compelling is a chapter dealing with the need for full disclosure, in which Thompson masterfully compiles chilling numbers on the longevity of homosexuals and the heavy burden of disease, illness and substance abuse inherent in their choosing "a deathstyle, not a lifestyle."

Thompson's multifaceted solution to driving homosexual propaganda out of public schools is both solid and creative, and boils down to this: Parents must demand that schools fight homosexual behavior just as vigorously as they fight alcohol, drugs, reckless driving and other life-threats to our children.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: constitution; father; fma; gay; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; marriage; marriageamendment; mikethompson; mother; prisoners; protectmarriage
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To: little jeremiah
Try reading some history with "The Pink Swastika" by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams. Much detail and contemperanous documentation of the intimate connection between homosexuality and the Nazis themselves and their philosophy.

Trying to paint homosexuals as Nazis just because some Nazis were homosexuals is as ridiculous and deceitful as calling all white southerners KKK members just because some members of the KKK were white and from the south. Your attempts to do so are only destroying your credibility and harming your cause.

It might be advisable to inform yourself before defending homosexual marriage any more.

I am not defending homosexual marriage, I am discussing the most probable future result of current trends. For the record, IMO pursuing a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage is a waste of time and political capital.

21 posted on 12/27/2003 7:46:12 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: LPM1888
Comparing antisemitism and homosexuality will only tend to strengthen the younger generations view of homosexuality as a civil rights vs. bigotry issue.>>

Homosexuality and anti-Semitism are both alike in one sense: homosexuality is not really attraction toward men, it is a form of hatred: in particular, hatred of women ('breeders').

Homosexuality is nothing more than an activity avidly chosen, and it requires no more protection than any other chosen sport. Homosexuality is very much a sporting activity, particularly like golf: both involve plaing with balls and sticks and holes, both require that an individual get into ridiculous outfits and go to special reservations to enjoy them, both cost a great deal of money, both distract the practitioner from time better spent with their (opposite sex) spouses. Both are also forms of recreation that are amazingly unattractive to those who do not participate.

The big difference of course is that, lightning strikes and the occasional ravenous allegator aside, people don't die in huge numbers playing golf. I should add one other thing: both golf and homosexuality are ACQUIRED TASTES.

ON a more serious note. Talk about homosexuality being inborn is simply a lie of Satan: it is acquired through repetative masturbatory fixation over a long period of time. And I, and many millions of people like me, have no intention of standing by and letting a bunch of noble nazis in black robes force me to pay for Larry and Curly's divorce fight over ownership of their pink poodle, Moe. We regard the Supreme Court mandating gay marriage (which is coming) as an intolerable act, which shall be slapped down as harshly as possible within the constitutional confines within we live.
22 posted on 12/27/2003 7:47:50 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: LPM1888
Trying to paint homosexuals as Nazis just because some Nazis were homosexuals is as ridiculous and deceitful as calling all white southerners KKK members just because some members of the KKK were white and from the south.

Actually, pointing out the relationship between homosexuals and Nazism is more like pointing out the relationship between KKK afficiandos and racists.

Not only were a great number of the Nazi elite, as well as much of the rank and file, homosexuals, but their very philosophy was based on a pseudo-mystical mix of racial superiority, phony Teutonic mythology, ersatz "aryan" brotherhood, with a foundation of homo-erotic Greco-militarism.

Add to that connection the Goebbels-like propaganda methods that homosexual activists are shoving down peoples' throats, and utter intolerance (indeed, edging towards criminalization) of legitimate dissent, and VOILA! Homo-fascism.

23 posted on 12/27/2003 7:59:19 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
I'll be back later, bump.
24 posted on 12/27/2003 8:07:26 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Salvation

It would be awesome to have 60 or more Republican senators!
Do you think it can happen by 2004? 2008?

The presidential race appears to be a forgone conclusion. Dean is more interested in pulling the nation to the extremely extreme left than winning.

I would be awesome to have 60 senators who understood the U.S. Constitution and upheld their oath of office.

2004? 2008? All depends on:

[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion....Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of man and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?
And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric? (Source: George Washington, Address of George Washington, President of the United States . . . Preparatory to His Declination (Baltimore: George and Henry S. Keatinge), pp. 22-23. In his Farewell Address to the United States in 1796.)

Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. - James Madison

 

 

25 posted on 12/27/2003 8:08:26 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: scripter
Later as in tonight, or later as in another day and another time? Either way, good night and God keep you!


(How's the flu - I hope better!)
26 posted on 12/27/2003 8:10:10 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
The Nazi's used their politics as cultivating grounds for victims and recruits.

The ONLY way to stop this is via constitutional amendment. I am suprised the defeatists are poping up, very convenient. There are 38 states with DOMAs. There is a VERY HIGH political probability that is WILL PASS. This was posted before why duplicate threads? Could it be that the prior thread was positive that the FMA had to be adopted to stop the homosexuals? Could it be that the homosexuals are seeing their efforts to recruit children thwarted?
27 posted on 12/27/2003 8:10:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: xzins

That is why it MUST be started NOW going into an election year. It would be an awesome way to MAKE Senators stand on the side of angels FOR which of them want to be the one to say "I reject the people's opinion as to what constitute's marriage."

Nailed it down hard!

28 posted on 12/27/2003 8:16:35 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: little jeremiah
Later as in hopefully tonight - just busy. The flu is going away and I almost feel normal. Still haven't left the house except to get the newspaper.
29 posted on 12/27/2003 8:20:27 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Federalist 78
Mike Thompson is author of "Preying In School":

How Homosexuals Recruit Your Kids,

1-866-909-2665.

30 posted on 12/27/2003 8:22:20 PM PST by GrandMoM (Rejoice Christ is Born!)
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To: xzins
True, but some Legislators are too fearful and avoiding offending Phunny Phranks and his Phag Phriends.
31 posted on 12/27/2003 8:22:56 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: LPM1888
I am not defending homosexual marriage, I am discussing the most probable future result of current trends. For the record, IMO pursuing a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage is a waste of time and political capital.

Your profile and your tagline mentions the facts. If the facts weren't suppressed we wouldn't be having this conversation, but since the facts are suppressed and the media is obviously pro-homosexual in their bias, we need to take drastic measures such as constitutional ammendments to rebut the prevalent pro-homosexual bias.

Some of the facts are that thousands of homosexuals have left the homosexual lifestyle and AIDS targets homosexual behavior. This information is suppressed along with the severe health hazards of the homosexual lifestyle.

For anyone interested:

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links

32 posted on 12/27/2003 8:36:02 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: azhenfud
But the risk of NOT being re-elected is higher for those who do not support normal marriage.

Voting paterns favor conservatives turning out for their beliefs than for leftists. With the Voter News Service numbers FINALLY being exposed it seems the liberals are in FAR more serious problems. Only 17% of america identifies themseves as liberal. The number of conservatives identifyers went up into the high 30's or low 40's.

"liberal" continues to be rejected and the protection of marriage against deviants like homosexuals is a winning issue.
33 posted on 12/27/2003 8:53:16 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: little jeremiah
it seems the homosexuals are actually scared of the FMA stopping their agenda. hence the posts opposing the amendment. We must have them on the run.
34 posted on 12/27/2003 9:00:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
maybe they just think you're boring, redundant, and irrelevant.
35 posted on 12/27/2003 9:05:26 PM PST by breakem
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To: Federalist 78; snopercod; joanie-f; TPartyType; harpseal; redrock; brityank
There is only one Amendment needed at this time, as follows:

The time limit for the Senate to give its advice and consent on all matters proscribed within the body of this Constitution, is thirty days from the instant of the President of the United States making known his nominations and other submissions for such advice and consent under this Constitution. This time limit shall be in effect immediately upon ratification of this Amendment by ...

(so on and so forth).

36 posted on 12/27/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: breakem; longtermmemmory
Well, well, well - what have we here?

Such profound logic you add to this discussion, break them.

Why don't you trot out some facts, figures, studies or authoritative references the way you usually do? Or is childish invective and silly finger pointing while jumping up and down more to your liking?
37 posted on 12/27/2003 9:25:39 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: jwalsh07
Well, there are always those old geezer Socratic types around to corrupt the young. You general point is well taken, but certain hard wiring cultural attitudes don't change much as one begins to physically deteriorate from being a 20 something stud. Just look at the massive change in attitudes in this country in our lifetimes regarding race and religion (the latter from a internecine denominational standpoint).

The issue of gay marriage and gay civil unions will either gain traction or fade based on empirical experience. And that is as it should be.

38 posted on 12/27/2003 9:30:59 PM PST by Torie
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To: LPM1888; little jeremiah
I suspect the percentage of pedophiles is the same in each group.

Unfortunately you suspect incorrectly and have been sold bogus information. Homosexuals, being around 2% (including bisexuals) of the population, account for a third of child molestations. Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

There are some here who may whine about the numbers but have nothing to rebut the information at the above links. We've said over and over that we'd stop posting this information if anybody could demonstrate with credible sources the information we post is incorrect. Still, no takers.

39 posted on 12/27/2003 9:35:34 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Some of the facts are that thousands of homosexuals have left the homosexual lifestyle and AIDS targets homosexual behavior. This information is suppressed along with the severe health hazards of the homosexual lifestyle.

Similar claims can be made for tobacco smokers among others. Many people lead risky lifestyles, some for profit, some for entertainment, some for sexual pleasure. Some of those people are injured, killed, or have their health impaired because of their behavior. and sometimes the rest of us end up paying the bill for their behavior. Limiting someones rights because they are a subset of that group isn't a valid excuse for a Constitutional Amendment.

You haven't done anything to support a reason for why people shouldn't be allowed to live their lives as they please. You have only shown that you disapprove of people who have different sexual orientations than the norm. You have also shown that you believe your disapproval of their lifestyle is sufficent grounds to inhibit their pursuit of Life, Liberty, and Happiness.

In the long run their rights to those pursuits will prevail. Its only a matter of time.

40 posted on 12/27/2003 9:56:05 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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