Judge Roy Moore Above the Baby Killing Law? [modified repost]

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

There is a force above the 'Almighty, Ever-to-be-worshipped' Law, righteousness. When the law is in conflict with righteousness, I side against the "almighty, ever to be worshipped, kneeled to" Law. If I did not side with righteousness, I would be worshipping law, would I not? Law would become my god, just as government was supposed to be the god of all loyal marxists. There is no difference, whatsoever, between placing law above righteousness and being a totalitarian tyrant demanding blind, marxist loyalty.

Law is made for our civilization to funtion. It is a mere tool. And in this case, that tool was badly misused. If someone hits you with a hammer and says, "Respect this hammer, submit to it, for it is a tool of good", I point out that a hammer is also a tool for tyranny.

Today's 'law' is so perverted that while prior justices honored the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court building, showing Moses holding the Two Tablets, the jaded tyrants of today who wear robes are completely out of touch about what establishing a religion means. Who am I supposed to believe understands the Constitution better today? The baby killing injustice system of modern times? Or the justice system that honored God in every courtroom and encouraged the honoring of God in every federal building? Why are these latecoming 'justices' so more well informed about the intent of our Founding Fathers, these baby killing, gun grabbing tyrants-in-robes of today, than the justices of the past who knew right-from-wrong?

If I'm to tell good from evil by checking the fruit born, this fruit is poison, while the sweet fruit of the past was the foundation of today's prosperity.

So long as tyranny continues in the court room, so long as our elected leaders do not impeach them for their tyranny, there IS NO TRUE LAW in this country. They are petty tyrants, nothing more. They are not worth our respect. It could even be said by some, with a certain amount of logic, that a body of people who killed 40 million innocents is an enemy of the Free World.

The law worshipping tyrants in Alabama are not alone. It is like that throughout the legal branch. Rubbing salt in the wound, they overturned an election. Judge Roy Moore was elected by the people of Alabama because of his stand on the Ten Commandments, his desire to bring sane, generic recognition of God back to government, the way it was before worms ate away the sanity of law professors in recent decades. The people agreed enthusiastically with Judge Roy Moore. He is a hero in their eyes. The debate is just starting.

Just imagine what would happen if Judge Roy Moore becomes governor of Alabama and defends the Ten Commandments with the National Guard, and various individuals who can no longer see the difference between our legal branch and mass murderers, people from various nearby states, were to join with him. I hope we prevent such an event through the political process. How tragic it would be for law worshippers to start killing people for keeping the 10 Commandments on their walls.

To say that Judge Roy Moore deserves what he got because he defied a court order is to worship black robed tyrants. Kiss their hands, if you like. Kiss their feet. Lick their slimy toes. You might as well. They are your god. And our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of you.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I went off the deep end, this morning. An earlier post that went further than this was rightfully banned. But I think most people understand my outrage over our current legal system.

[Servant of the 9]

To say that Judge Roy Moore deserves what he got because he defied a court order is to worship black robed tyrants.

No, it is to say "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

And it is manifest hypocracy.
If some Justice of the Peace or County Judge had defied an order of the Alabama Supreme Court, former Judge Moore would have had them in jail for contempt in a minute, but when he grandstands and defies a Federal Court order on the constitutionality of his actions, he whines about persecution because he was removed from office.
He should be thankful he isn't in jail for contempt.

So9

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"If some Justice of the Peace or County Judge had defied an order of the Alabama Supreme Court, former Judge Moore would have had them in jail for contempt in a minute..."

Show an example of Moore persecuting someone for his or her religion, and I will agree with you. Otherwise, your accusation of hypocracy is unfounded.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Oh, and speaking of manifest hypocracy, the Supreme Court building honors Moses, holding the Two Tablets, and yet was unwilling to defend Justice Moore for the constitutionally sound monument. How can they accuse him of establishing a religion when earlier supreme court justices honored the same Two Tablets that he did?

[MHGinTN]

I'm wondering why Roy didn't just resign from the bench instead of playing their game of black-robed oligarchic debate? Is it harder to kick off a run for higher political office following a resignation from a defective court system? Something doesn't add up in all this.

[Servant of the 9]

Show an example of Moore persecuting someone for his or her religion, and I will agree with you. Otherwise, your accusation of hypocracy is unfounded.

This is about a judge who defies court orders, not religion.

We are a nation of laws.
If you don't like the way the laws are, you elect a legislature that will impeach bad judges and work with a good president to appoint fair judges and pass proper laws.
You can campaign, bitch and complain, but you do not break the law.
A court order that is not overturned on appeal is LAW in this country. If you disregard it you are a criminal.

The Federal Courts may be in error, you and Mr. Moore may be right, but they are not criminals, and Mr. Moore is.

So9

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Defy the law through civil disobedience, if you must, but be prepared to pay the price.

[steplock]

The Federal Court had NO JURISDICTION in this matter of a STATE Judge in a STATE court.

THAT is why he refused to follow their ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL demands.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Scripture placed on the Liberty Bell? That is only one of many examples. The best one being congress to this day paying ministers/pastors to lead each session in prayer. Recognizing God is a far cry from establishing a religion. And any court order that persecutes someone for recognising God, a court that cannot cite any law that could constitutionally be passed by congress-- our ONLY legislators, then no law was broken. This is a tyranny order by what? Members of an illegal community, not a legal one. Why should anyone respect it?

Our Founding Fathers rose up in arms against a tyrannical law. Naturally, this forum must attempt to solve this problem politically. But anyone who says Moore should have submitted himself before such perversity is worshipping these tyrants.

[joesnuffy]

There is a force above the 'Almighty, Ever-to-be-worshipped' Law, righteousness. When the law is in conflict with righteousness, I side against the "almighty, ever to be worshipped, kneeled to" Law. If I did not side with righteousness, I would be worshipping law, would I not? Law would become my god, just as government was supposed to be the god of all loyal marxists. There is no difference, whatsoever, between placing law above righteousness and being a totalitarian tyrant demanding blind, marxist loyalty.

Absolutely....the new tyrunts have usurped the U.S. Constitution...in their hatred of God and His law they hope to bring the USA down..

Looks like they'll have plenty of help on both sides of the fence

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

The Federal courts would have to prove that Moore went above and beyond what previous members of government had done to prove that he was, in fact, elevating one specific religion above all others. What he did was nothing unusual by the standards of previous members of government. They know that. They are the ones seeking to establish a religion, the worship of law. And it seems to me that the worship of law is deeply rooted in people who do not even realise what has happened to them. They must be awakened.

[Lady Eileen]

May God bless Judge Moore, and encourage his supporters.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"tyrunts"... well said! They are runts, in a way. They might feel invicible, but that invincibility could be shattered the moment there is a super-majority in the senate poised to impeach them. I pray that day comes soon.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

God bless you, too, m'lady.

[MHGinTN]

Will Roy Moore run for Governor?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Will Roy Moore run for Governor?"

I don't know. I do hope he keeps their feet to the fire, one way or another.

[Cicero]

You are absolutely correct. This is not the rule of law, it is the usurpation of law by arbitrary judicial tyranny.

The best discussion I have seen on this issue was in First Things, in a series of articles under the Title, "The End of Democracy? The Judicial Usurpation of Politics," by Fr. John Neuhaus, Robert Bork, Russel Hittinger, Hadley Arkes, Chuck Colson, and Robert P. George.

I STRONGLY recommend anyone who hasn't yet read this discussion to hurry up and do so. It was a real bombshell at the time. Several editors of First Things resigned over it. But it was absolutely on the money. The series can be found HERE. ALL FREEPERS SHOULD READ IT:

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9611/articles/eodmaster.html

P. S. There was followup discussion in succeeding issues of First Things. I just did an article search at First Things for "Supreme Court judicial tyranny," and turned up most of them.

[eskimo]

So long as tyranny continues in the court room, so long as our elected leaders do not impeach them for their tyranny, there IS NO TRUE LAW in this country.

Until more Americans come to accept this stark reality, the reign of terror perpetrated by the diseased, tyrant mentalities who fancy themselves supreme law givers and enforcers will continue to devastate this country.

[MHGinTN]

Incidentally, who was president when 'In God We Trust' was put on our paper money and into the Pledge to the flag?

[PISANO]

I do believe that SEVERAL German Justices were sent to prison for OBEYING the GERMAN LAWS at the Nuremburg trials.

I will say this; NOT ALL LAWS are righteous, but if they are NOT OBEYED, they must be enforced with punishment. THOSE who are willing to pay the PRICE for disobeying an unjust law, LEAD the way to righteousness.