Skip to comments.Academics swap gender of Trump, Clinton for restaged presidential debate, the results surprised them
Posted on 03/07/2017 5:16:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
This is fascinating. A professor of economics named Maria Guadalupe was watching the presidential debates last year and had a thought. What if Trump were a woman and Hillary were a man? How would that change peoples perceptions of the exchanges in the debates?
With the help of Joe Salvatore, a professor who specializes in something called ethnodrama, Guadalupe set up a recreation of sections of the original debates using actors to play the roles of Trump, Clinton and the moderator. All the words the actors spoke were taken from transcripts. The candidates body language and delivery were studied and the actors did their best to match it moment-to-moment to video feeds from the actual debates. The only difference was that Donald Trump was now a woman renamed Brenda King while Hillary was now a man dubbed Jonathan Gordon.
Initially, both Guadalupe and Salvatore had little doubt what the experiment would reveal, i.e. Trumps behavior would never be tolerated coming from a woman while Clintons competence would be even more obvious coming from a man. But as rehearsals for the performance of the reimagined debates went on, Guadalupe and Salvatore were surprised by what they were feeling about the two candidates. It turned out the woman version of Trump seemed more likable than they had imagined. Salvatore told Guadalupe during rehearsals, I kind of want to have a beer with her!
When the debate was actually performed, for a crowd of mostly academics, the audience was somewhat bewildered. From NYU News:
The two sold-out performances of Her Opponent took place on the night of Saturday, January 28, just a week after President Trumps inauguration and the ensuing Womens March on Washington
Many were shocked to find that they couldnt seem to find in Jonathan Gordon what they had admired in Hillary Clintonor that Brenda Kings clever tactics seemed to shine in moments where theyd remembered Donald Trump flailing or lashing out. For those Clinton voters trying to make sense of the loss, it was by turns bewildering and instructive, raising as many questions about gender performance and effects of sexism as it answered.
In an interview with NYU News, Joe Salvatore described some of the specific reactions he heard from the auidence:
We heard a lot of now I understand how this happenedmeaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back. The simplicity of Trumps message became easier for people to hear when it was coming from a womanthat was a theme. One person said, Im just so struck by how precise Trumps technique is. Anothera musical theater composer, actuallysaid that Trump created hummable lyrics, while Clinton talked a lot, and everything she was was true and factual, but there was no hook to it. Another theme was about not liking either candidateyou know, I wouldnt vote for either one. Someone said that Jonathan Gordon [the male Hillary Clinton] was really punchable because of all the smiling. And a lot of people were just very surprised by the way it upended their expectations about what they thought they would feel or experience. There was someone who described Brenda King [the female Donald Trump] as his Jewish aunt who would take care of him, even though he might not like his aunt. Someone else described her as the middle school principal who you dont like, but you know is doing good things for you.
Salvatore says it was personally education for him as many members of his extended family had voted for Trump. I developed empathy for people who voted for him by doing this project, which is not what I was expecting, he told NYU News. He added, I expected it to make me more angry at them, but it gave me an understanding of what they might have heard or experienced when he spoke. You can watch a bit of the rehearsal here:
Should someone call ICE?
They think people are sheep and all they have to do is herd them into voting for them.
It’s the POLICIES, stupid.
Or a priest?
It’s hard to wake up and realize YOU’RE the bigot.
The video at the link is just 2 minutes long and its worth a look. The man and woman seem to really do a good job.
The male Hillary is super annoying.
what if Hillary were a decent human being?
i mean, as long as we are pretending
Watched the 2 minute video clip at the link... actually done quite well and very revealing of why Trump won. Clinton wreaked of self serving fecklessness while Trump was laser focused and passionate.
And that is why Trump won
I agree with the audience member who said that Jonathan Gordon was “really punchable” but then again, that’s what I thought of Hillary in the actual debate
and didn’t smell like cabbage and urine?
I thought that, too, especially about her idiotic smile. I also think that Nancy Pelosi is characterized by that same high index of punchability.
Relax it was a joke...otherwise, wow.
I was searching for "ethnic" for a post yesterday. As in Bernie Madoff's "ethnic affinity fraud".
By the time it was over, I wanted to punch the guy.
A tremendously high quality joke, maybe so high, the index of hilarity entered the stratosphere and disappeared.
Is that (”It was a joke.”) always the fallback?
“Is that (It was a joke.) always the fallback?”
I guess the gig is up...you got me.
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