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I'm Not Saying There's No Political Solution; I'm Saying Pick Up the Owner's Manual for Politics...
The Excellence in Broadcasting Network ^ | April 12, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/15/2016 11:43:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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RUSH: We have a guy on here from Southampton, New York, named Bill. Greetings, Bill. Great to have you. What is the point that you wanted to make here? You've been holding on for quite a while now.

CALLER: Thank you, Rush. My conclusion is that if Donald Trump is denied the nomination -- and in line with everything that you've just been saying -- that the big lesson for all of us is that there is no political solution available for our grievances to be addressed in America today.

RUSH: I did not say that. See, that's... I did not say there's not a political solution. I said to --

CALLER: Okay. I'm sorry. That's what I'm saying.

RUSH: By the way --

CALLER: I'm saying my conclusion is based on Trump not winning, on denying Trump the nomination --

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: -- and then in line with the fact that they're not listening, further affirmed my conclusion that there is no political solution.

RUSH: Okay. Let's take this bit by bit. I'm gonna say, in my own words, what I think you just said. Tell me if I got it or not, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

RUSH: Your point is if Trump is denied the nomination, the big lesson will be that there is no political solution for Republican grievances, and you have no idea what the answer to our problem is. If they deny Trump the nomination, we're out of ways to stop what's destroying the country?

CALLER: Exactly what your friend said in the e-mail. This is our last chance.

RUSH: Okay.

CALLER: Our freedom in our country is at risk.

RUSH: No, I understand.

CALLER: We're tired of waiting.

RUSH: I understand that. I need to go back to the very first thing you said, and I'm gonna trust that you were literal. Remember, I'm the mayor of Realville. You said, "If Trump is denied the nomination..." No, no, no, no. Trump has to win it. What do you mean, if Trump is denied? He hasn't won it yet! If he wins it and he's denied, then you've got a point. If he gets to 1,237 and they try to take it away from him, then you've got a real point. But he hasn't won diddly-squat yet. He hasn't gotten 1,237. He hasn't won.

There's nothing to deny yet, and I think that may be a point. There is no entitlement here. Just because you're leading doesn't mean it's yours. The other candidates are not just gonna lay down and die and go away. Look at Kasich. There's no reason to stay in this, other than to gum up the works, and he's doing it. There is no way Cruz can get to 1,237, but he's not going away. There is no entitlement. The assumption here, if Trump is denied the nomination...

Now, I trust that what you're saying is that if Trump gets to 1,237 and they take it away from him... If that happens, there's gonna be blood. If that happens, there's gonna be a genuine... It's gonna make what happened in Chicago 1968 look like tiddlywinks and Romper Room. But if Trump gets to 1,150 and they don't give it to him, he's not being denied. The rule says 1,237, and they're gonna do everything they can to keep him from getting there.

You have to understand something, that right now in this country there are easily 60% of Republicans who don't want Trump to win the nomination. Now, in the last segment of the previous hour, I explained what I think pretty well what somebody has to do as an outsider to come in and win control of the Republican Party, which is what the presidential nominee is. The presidential nominee is the de facto head of the party. That's another thing that has 'em all panicked.

The nominee chooses who runs the party, chooses the head of the committee, defines the rules at the convention, determines who speaks at the convention. The nominee is the head honcho. They've made it clear -- the leadership of the GOP has -- they don't want that to be Trump. That should not be news to you. So why are we doing this? Why are you doing this? I did not mean to make it seem like a lost cause. But if you're sitting there thinking that Trump's already won this and that people are working now to deny it, you've gotta change your attitude about this.

This isn't over. Okay, so you don't like what happened in Colorado. What are you gonna do about it? That should be the only question here, if they're serious: What to do after Colorado? How to make sure it doesn't happen again. How to make up for lost ground. But there has been some lost ground. Why did Trump stop winning? "Win, win, win, win, win!" Trump's staked his image, his reputation, everything he's built about how he's gonna win, win, win, win, win, win, win. He hasn't been winning. Why not?

You gotta figure it out.

You can't sit there and get mad at people for not voting for the guy. You've gotta figure out how you're gonna win. He was winning. He was on a roll. He had momentum nobody could stop. What happened to it? Well, when the momentum stopped, you can't blame the opponents for getting excited and trying to capitalize on it. I have said for however long I've been doing this program, "Whatever business you go into, there's a procedure for how you climb the ladder in that business. There are rules that have been set up."

Either over time, they've just evolved, or maybe there's a book, a manual. Things that are written, unspoken, things you've got to do if you want to get to the top of whatever business, whatever organization. And if it involves overthrowing the current regime of that organization, there's even more things that you've gotta do. You've gotta learn how the insiders are operating it. Why are we even doing this? I tell you. You're doing this because you believe that this party needs to be taken over. You're doing this because you believe that the Republican Party's no longer responsive to you.

Okay. Just because they stage an event in Colorado where the delegates... Let me tell you something else about Colorado. Even if they had a lot of votes, do you realize that you've structured the rules in Colorado so that the delegates are unbound? You think you're mad now? Suppose there had been a vote and suppose Trump had won it 60-40 and Cruz got all the delegates. You think you're mad now? What would you be doing then? Their delegates are unbound; they are not pledged.

And the states set it up this way however they want. They did this all last fall, and they did this... I'm gonna tell you again. Colorado set up this procedure to grease the skids for an insider candidate like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or whoever some of the other insiders were for. Chris Christie, whoever it was. Colorado set it up so that precisely a Ron Paul or this year's iteration of it -- Donald Trump, Ted Cruz -- could not come in and win it. They not going to give it away. I can think of analogies all day long here, and I not gonna get through, I don't think. I'm gonna fall on deaf ears.

But national politics, like anything else, is hard. It is really hard. Name the last third-party candidate that won anything for president. Name it. Many of you Trump people are Tea Party people. Haven't you learned by now what you have to do? How many Tea Party members of Congress have gone there bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and left after one or two terms because, "Sorry, I can't get anything done here."

The rules are stacked against 'em. They don't get any committee assignments. They don't get any help in reelection efforts. Because the Tea Party's not the majority party in the House of Representatives. The Republican establishment runs it still. What are you doing here? You're trying to take over the Republican establishment. You're trying to conquer the ruling class. That is a big task. Ask the French about it.

You don't get there by whining and moaning when you lose something. You figure out why you lost and you come back and you let it not happen again. You go back and look at when you were winning and ask, what were you doing? And then why did you stop winning? What possibly could have caused it? And if you can figure it out, stop doing it. I'm not gonna answer those questions even though I could. But nothing has been granted you. There's nothing to be denied you yet. Otherwise, Kasich could walk around, he could be talking, "If I'm denied this nomination, why, I don't know what's gonna happen to this party." And people would laugh.

Now, maybe the caller didn't mean deny literally, but I think that probably is reflective of an attitude. People think that this is so important, that the future of the country is so important, there's only one guy that can possibly make a difference, and we don't care how many people he insults and we don't care how many pictures of Cruz's wife he puts up. We're talking about saving the country. We're talking about saving my family and my family's future. We're talking about maintaining the great country. I understand all of that. I'm of the same mind-set.

But, I'm sorry, folks, I've been fired seven times. I've never had anything handed to me. I don't want to make this personal. But the reason I know this backwards and forwards, upside down, is my own career. And I didn't do one thing, a single thing necessary to get where I am except perform. But I didn't network, I didn't get to know people. I didn't get anywhere because of who I know. I didn't get anywhere because of knowing lobbyists or the equivalent of lobbyists. I was never part of any establishment, and I'm not now. And I never will be. It would never, ever be permitted.

When you think that this has somehow become an entitlement and that everybody thinks it is because of how important it is, you have to understand I've been trying, I don't know how many times, how many months I've been telling you, there are people who live in Washington who do not see the status quo like you do. It's perfectly fine. They're wealthy. Their kids' futures are set. They're in great middle schools. They're gonna go to great Ivy League colleges in many cases. They're gonna graduate and because of connections they're gonna have jobs. They probably aren't gonna need student loans.

The unemployment level where they live is three, four percent, and it's a real three, four percent, and the per capita income is about 180, 200 grand on the low side. They have no clue. And when you try to get them to understand how you see this current situation or crisis, they don't at all. So they think people that look at life that way are kooky, on the fringe, oddball, weirdos, what have you. They're the ones out of touch. But they are the ones that also run the show right now. As such, they get to define how the events they sponsor are run.

The United States Constitution doesn't talk about state elections, other than the presidency. But this local stuff, state stuff, the state constitutions prevail, state rules, state organizations, state parties, and every damn one of them is different. And if you're gonna conquer them, you've got to know them. You've gotta know how they're playing the game in every state that you hope to win. And you can't just rely on the force of your personality, the force of nature.

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RUSH: Going back to our last caller, this e-mail I got. It's apparent that one of the things that is puzzling, maybe even confusing, but certainly disappointing to a lot of people is -- and again, I understand it. Here you have Trump, up until the last month or so, was just killing it. Donald Trump owned it. And the Republican Party was not joining him. And I think that shocked a lot of people.

A lot of people think, okay, everybody running is a Republican. Cruz is a Republican. Marco is a Republican. Christie's a Republican. Trump's a Republican. Here's a guy getting Democrats, crossing over voters, he's expanding the base of the party. He's going out -- I've made this point -- he's attracting people that the Republican Party claims it wants, and yet they are trying to destroy him, they're trying to stop him. They're not getting behind him. Wait a minute. This doesn't compute. This doesn't make sense. Why aren't they embracing the guy?

The answer's real simple: He's not one of them. He is the equivalent of a third-party candidate running under the Republican Party banner. And ditto Ted Cruz. One more thing here, I'm gonna reemphasize this. I made this point yesterday. Do not think that what's happening here is a secret alignment between the establishment and Ted Cruz. Because if the establishment succeeds in stopping Trump, they're next going to stop Cruz. They don't want either one of these guys. Because they know they will not be able to control either one of these guys. They don't want either one of these guys becoming a de facto head of the party, which is what the nominee becomes. It's that simple.

I know I could give you a sports analogy. It's like your team winning the World Series and half the front office being mad because of how it happened. It doesn't make sense. So you get even angrier. "My gosh, the party's not embracing the one guy that can save the party." The party's not interested in anything but saving itself. "Well, that's not fair, that's not right." Doesn't matter. It's what it is. And that's what the task is.

Before you get to the White House you gotta beat these guys at their game, with their rules. You have to know what their rules are and where the rules are being employed. This is the big leagues. There's no crying here. There's just figuring out what has to be done next.

And if you want, I'll tell you what that is.

But I gotta get back to the phones here. It's Plano, Texas. John, great to have you. I'm glad you waited. Your turn. Hello.

CALLER: How you doing, Rush?

RUSH: I am actually doing quite well here.

CALLER: Well, you did a great job explaining to the other callers about what needs to be done on the ground. What you're not telling them is that Trump never did this. You're not explaining that the entire campaign and Donald Trump himself are now being exposed for being incompetent. They can't do the job. They can't figure out how to win because they're not working on the ground. They didn't take the time to figure anything out, to go to the states and run the campaigns. They're closing their offices after they win, not thinking that they're gonna need 'em anymore. "I won that state, so we don't need it anymore."

His own kids can't even register Republican from Democrat in New York City so they can vote for their father. They didn't even know that. So, I mean, they're not running a campaign here. They're running a drive-by, as you say, a drive-by campaign. Donald Trump flies in, shows up, flies out, and he expects to win for showing up. It's incompetence. Total incompetence. I don't understand it.

And then the people are getting mad simply because Donald Trump is now angling that incompetence onto Ted Cruz for cheating. And he's not. He just figured out -- you know, he came out of the Senate looking like a guy who had no friends. He knew he was gonna have to work for it, so he got down to the dirt, put on the boxing gloves and went out there and fought it out. That's what he's doing. Donald Trump's not doing that. He expects to show up and get all the votes.

RUSH: Well, I think that's partially correct in a attitudinal sense. I don't have any doubt about that. Some of the other things that you have posited, let me tackle those when we get back from this obscene profit time-out. It seems like there are a lot of these today.

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RUSH: No, I don't think it's necessary to untie the other half for what we're talking about here. I can do it. But I do want to clarify a couple things based on some responses I've checked here that I see I'm being misunderstood, and I never want to be misunderstood, and I'm never gonna blame you for misunderstanding me.

If I have conveyed the idea that in some of these states that it's not the will of the people, it's not democratic, that is determining the outcome of some or many of these primaries, I didn't mean to convey that. The reason that all of this is happening is because for the first time in I don't know how long it's possible that nobody is going to be selected as the nominee before the convention. 1976, what's that, 40 years ago, is the last time that this happened. So we never see this.

People are watching the sausage be made. People never knew about the delegate rules from state to state. They never knew about delegates. People have learned more about how this all works in this primary than they have known their entire lives. The whole process here, particularly in its first steps, is democratic. In most states -- Colorado's an exception here -- but in most states the winner of the popular vote, whether in the whole state or district by district, or both, will get the delegates on the first ballot, based on the people's vote, the people of the district of the whole state in part or combined. And that controls to make these delegates pledged and bound at least for the first ballot.

However, states are free every four years to write their own rules. And Colorado decided to do it differently. Pennsylvania has I think -- I don't have the numbers right in front of me. I think there's 71 delegates in Pennsylvania. And only 14 of them are bound, 54 or 57, whatever it is, are unbound even after the primary. So, in addition to trying to win the state, you have to also get in there and woo and wine and dine the delegates. It's just the way that state wants to run its operation. Ditto, Colorado.

Now, Colorado, again, was very open when they did this. They weren't hiding anything. They were explicitly trying to prevent an outsider from winning their state. Whether they did it in conjunction with the RNC, the GOP, I don't know. But it might have been used as a firewall. Remember back in August when this all happened, Trump had everybody bamboozled. There had been three separate occasions where he should have imploded by then but hadn't. He was going like gangbusters. He was growing and growing and gaining in popularity, and there were a lot of people in the party getting scared to death.

So they started thinking of various ways to stop the insurgency, which is what every entrenched political organization is going to do, is stop an insurgency. They're not gonna embrace it. Folks, they didn't embrace Ronald Reagan. It took him, what, four years. He even had the support of a majority of delegates in '76, for the most part, they still gave it to Gerald Ford. And even after Reagan got the nomination, became president, what's the first thing that happened when the next president, George H. W. Bush stepped up? The first thing they did was clear house of all the Reagan people, as many of them as they could clear out.

Reagan was always an outsider because he was a conservative. It took his whole life to win the Republican nomination. And I'm sure back in 1976 people thought the country was on its dire steps, dire circumstances back then, and we were. We were coming off of Watergate. Oh, my God. When the media was able to force a Republican president out of office, guess what became the can-do objective of the media forever thereafter? Destroying Republican presidencies.

When you show yourself you can do it once, doing it again, what a thrill. And they haven't stopped since. And they tried to destroy Reagan. They did everything they could to undermine him even after he won the nomination. They did everything they could to undermine him when he became president. In the Republican Party itself you had people that were not ecstatic that Reagan had won. The moderates. There never has been a situation where the party has embraced and welcomed in an insurgent. It just doesn't happen. It's always going to be adversarial.

You're never gonna have the people you think and are saying are the enemy embrace you. You make your political career out of trying to beat the status quo, the people of the status quo are not gonna embrace you when you try to knock 'em out. It's just basic human nature. But as I say, one of the reasons for all the consternation here and all the controversy is that for the first time in 40 years nobody's close to 1,237. It's possible we're not gonna have a nominee after the primaries. Nobody's ever seen that before.

A lot of people alive today have never lived through something like this, and they certainly don't know what this delegate stuff is. Which is why I, El Rushbo, am going through such great lengths to try to explain it. There's another reason why this is so convoluted; the field was so damn big. And I'll tell you something. In fairness to Trump, the fact that this field is so big and there were so many opponents, he's had to deal with all kinds of opponents, not just one or two that controlled the opposition votes. He'd had to deal with a total of 15, then 13, then 12. And the attrition continued, until now he's down to two: Cruz and Kasich. And it's basically Cruz.

And look at Ted Cruz for just a second. For all of you that have venom, there's nobody in this campaign more hated from day one to the present than Ted Cruz, by everybody. Trump has had a lot of love. The media's gone overboard loving and accepting and promoting Trump. Ted Cruz hasn't gotten one second of love from the media ever. He's had his supporters, but there was a period of time Ted Cruz couldn't even get noticed. But he keeps plugging away. He realizes where he is and what he has to do to get beyond where he is. And he's doing it. And he's going by the rules that the people have set up, and he's conquering based on the rules. You can't hold that against him.

Get mad at Colorado all you want, but Cruz isn't stealing anything. And Cruz isn't cheating anybody. It's just what it is. But when you strip all this away, at the end of this, the will of the people, for the most part -- there are exceptions -- but the will of the people is prevailing, as it usually does. There are exceptions when the will of the people doesn't prevail, like 2000. That idiot Algore won the popular vote, if you recall. And you want to talk about Gestapo tactics, do you know how many people in the country care about global warming? It's number 10 on the list of the nine things you think most important.

Nobody cares about it anymore. People have discovered it's a hoax. People have discovered that it's a bunch of empty crisis oriented claims. And so Democrat attorneys general are mounting Big Tobacco-style investigations of oil companies. Democrat officials who are opposed to fossil fuel energy companies are entering a new phase. State attorneys general have launched investigations that mirror the way the Department of Justice went after Big Tobacco. They're going to try to make cases in court that oil companies have misled the public about the risks of global warming, have lied to you about global warming, just like Big Tobacco lied to you about tobacco and lung disease and cancer.

You want to talk about Gestapo tactics? There is no science in global warming. It's nothing more than a political consensus of a bunch of scientists who have been bought off with grants, phony science. There's nothing scientific about it. If it were scientific, there wouldn't be any doubt. If there were real science, and if science had definitely proven and shown that there was man-made global warming, nobody of any substance would oppose it.

Just like nobody argues about gravity. Nobody argues about whether the earth goes around the sun. Nobody argues about the moon and any aspect of its rotation around the earth. It's proven science. Well, if man-made global warming was proven, nobody would argue about it. But over half the country think it's bogus. That's not stopping the Democrats.

So they're gonna go after Big Oil, take your pick, Exxon, whatever. This is what we are up against. That's just a microcosm of the kind of crap that we face that we're up against that is causing us to be in this period of crisis, and it is brought to us in living color by the Democrat Party in conjunction with the worldwide left. So whatever happens in all this, there better be enough energy left to stop these people and beat 'em in November.

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RUSH: Jonathan in Denver. Great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.

CALLER: Dittos, Rush.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: Good talking to you.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: By the way, my wife, Kathy, has been a longtime Rush 24/7 member. So in case she's listening, I want to put a shout out to her. But real quick, I want to give you a perspective from Denver, Colorado. I have never been involved in the Republican Party other than to show up at some primaries and vote.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: And obviously at the election and vote. So I'm not an establishment Republican at all. In fact, I'm anti-establishment. But this year I took the time to show up at the caucus and vote my precinct, vote for delegates who are gonna go to the Colorado state caucus and vote for the delegates that we send to the national convention. And let me tell you: Just about everyone in that room was like me. Not an establishment Republican. Regular people -- policemen, firemen, teachers, regular people -- took the time to show up. And let me tell you something. You talk about a good ground game? Ted Cruz had a great ground game going. He took the time to get my e-mail address, and he let me know, "I need you to sign up for the caucus. Get out there; make sure you vote." Every one of the delegates that we sent to Colorado --

RUSH: Let me ask you a question. When you got Cruz's email...? Are you a Cruz supporter? Is that how he knew to e-mail you, or was he just blanket shotgun firing e-mails to anybody he could in the state?

CALLER: No. What happened was I went to the Western Conservative Summit, put on by Armstrong -- Senator Armstrong here in Colorado -- every year. Just about every one of the Republican candidates had a presence at that Western Conservative Summit. The only guy that wasn't there, by the way, was Donald Trump. But I went and saw Carson speak twice. I was on his mailing list. I was on Santorum's mailing list. Cruz was the only one of the candidates that pushed me to go to the caucus and pestered me about it. So I took the time to go, as did my wife. We took the time to vote at the caucus.

RUSH: All right. I have to stop you 'cause I'm out of time, Jonathan, but there you go. That's on-the-site testimony of how it happened out there. It's not complicated.

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FULL TITLE: I'm Not Saying There's No Political Solution; I'm Saying Pick Up the Owner's Manual for Politics and Know How to Use It!
1 posted on 04/15/2016 11:43:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Ted Cruz: Seven Mountain Dominionism http://youtu.be/kNa5w9js48s
2 posted on 04/15/2016 11:58:43 PM PDT by vikingrinn
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One problem:

Without Trump, they would have given us Jeb!

They are probably still going to try to do it.

3 posted on 04/16/2016 12:14:27 AM PDT by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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From a strategic perspective, Trump fighting with Cruz and the Republican Party moves him closer to the center and more electable by the Independents and the swing Democrats.

I think the perfect storm is brewing to position him in the center.


4 posted on 04/16/2016 12:17:46 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Oh so disingenuous with the first caller. Rush tested my patience. My patience failed.


5 posted on 04/16/2016 12:22:00 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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They did this all last fall [...] Colorado set up this procedure to grease the skids for an insider candidate like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio [...] Colorado set it up so that precisely a Ron Paul or this year's iteration of it -- Donald Trump, Ted Cruz -- could not come in and win it.— Rush Limbaugh

The mask briefly comes off...

Of course since that time, Ted Cruz has now been transformed into the de facto insider candidate. He now has the backing of the GOPe.

And whaddya know, just like Jeb would have, Ted Cruz becomes the beneficiary of the "greased skids" rigged delegate selection process in Colorado.

Cruz=GOPe

6 posted on 04/16/2016 12:31:58 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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I agree. He was way off base. The not having 1237 is b.s., Rush knows darn well that if Jeb had done as well as Trump has done so far, it would be over. Nobody would be talking about he hasn’t gotten to 1237, they’d just be getting ready for the coronation at the convention. The caller’s point is that he’s not being represented by the GOP that’s fighting Trump instead of embracing him. So if the GOPe gets its way, then he’s back to the political wilderness, with no one to speak for him. I think a lot of us feel that way . . .


7 posted on 04/16/2016 1:49:42 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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Rush nails it again.

We do not have a democracy. It is a Republic. The primaries were set up to undermine the parties by the media cartel, and now the media cartel does not control the information flow.

Trump and Cruz should unite at the convention. Yes the game is rigged; but it is rigged by the establishment, which consists of the top leaders of the Repulicans, along with the Democrat party, with the media telling them what to do and what is acceptable.

Cruz is organizing a revolution in the Republican party from the ground up, and Trump is appealing to a populist, fed up base.

They are two sides of the same coin.


8 posted on 04/16/2016 2:35:56 AM PDT by marktwain
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You don't get there by whining and moaning when you lose something.

And this is what we see from the Donald and his followers.

If you want to win, pull your big boy pants up and fix what you missed in the rules.

Do not run out and say it is rigged when you know it is going to be rigged against you.

Cruz knows it is rigged but he is in there fighting to win.

tRump just wants it handed to him by his board of directors

9 posted on 04/16/2016 2:40:13 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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What about the electioneering and outright fraud that is being used? Is that in the manual too?


10 posted on 04/16/2016 4:22:47 AM PDT by bigtoona (The media, GOPe, dems, commie Pope, hate Trump. He is the destroyer we've been waiting for!)
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Remember, I'm the mayor of Realville...

"Realville" isn't a millionaire's compound on a Florida beach with a G5/6 sitting waiting for your call when you want to go golfing, see an NFL game or go eat steaks with your cronies. He's been waffling for months now, vacillating back and forth based on the candidates' status and the news, sometimes out of both sides of his mouth. The one phrase about "60% of Republican voters don't want Trump" finally tells the story. He's chosen to side with Cruz because he thinks that 60% will give him a large audience that keeps him in coin; the double talking is trying to have his cake and eat it, too. He's read an owner's manual alright. The one that says how play the radio game. He might have more empathy and understanding of things if he'd ever been to the grocery store by himself in the last two decades.

11 posted on 04/16/2016 4:33:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I think many of us are finally discovering what is the true nature of the candidate selection process. We've believed for oh so long that our votes on primary day/caucus day/whatever day would actually be what it was that propelled candidate X to the nominating platform. When all the while it has always been the delegate system that has ultimately dictated this. Most of us (Trump and non-Trump supporters alike) must conclude that there is a disenfranchising aspect to this - it all seems to belie the very notion of having a primary in the first place. It's as if whoever devised the delegate system wanted to throw some sort of bone to John Q. to placate his desire for participation, while actually rendering him a reduced involvement.

If we are to continue this process (the delegate system), then John Q. must be invited into that aspect of the nominating process to a much greater degree. And it begins with a greater spread of information.

12 posted on 04/16/2016 5:07:34 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: vikingrinn
Your "facts" are bogus. At most, you can claim that Ted's father spoke at a church with dominionist views. Ted is a member of First Baptist Church in Houston

If you want to be dishonest about it, that's between you and God.

13 posted on 04/16/2016 6:08:18 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: bigtoona

You need to provide specifics instead of throwing out a general accusation.


14 posted on 04/16/2016 6:13:46 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: MarDav
I am fine with each state choosing it's process as long as they give the grassroots the opportunity to choose the delegates. In Colorado, every registered republican could show up at the precinct convention and run as a delegate or choose a delegate that best represents them at the next level. It's just like in Nevada or Iowa where you had to show up.

The delegate system is necessary when no candidate receives a majority as well as voting on rules, platform, and other matters.

15 posted on 04/16/2016 6:21:53 AM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: DrewsDad

A Majority is impossible. A Plurality always happens.

You and your multitudes are Mathematically Illiterate.
You are Scientific & Constitutionally Illiterate.
The result is that Delegates & Conventions are criminal fraud.

Feel happy you joined the masses who do not read books.

There is one truism:

“Everything Everybody understands about Elections is Wrong.” - TheNext


16 posted on 04/16/2016 7:50:37 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" I'm Saying Pick Up
the Owner's Manual for Politics..."


Oh...like the one that says
IN YOUR OWN WORDS
that Ted Cruz is NOT eligible
to be POTUS????


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2511742/posts?page=20#20

20 posted on 5/12/2010, 3:03:41 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (Don’t care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A “Natural Born” citizen requires two US parents!)

17 posted on 04/16/2016 11:16:29 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: marktwain
Trump and Cruz should unite at the convention. Yes the game is rigged; but it is rigged by the establishment, which consists of the top leaders of the Repulicans, along with the Democrat party, with the media telling them what to do and what is acceptable.

The Establishment runs much deeper than that. The "top leaders" wouldn't be able to get anything done without the support of the lower-level state and local party establishment, just like the Mafia Dons couldn't run anything without the lower levels seeing a benefit.

The Establishment is everyone connected to the Republican party who derives a benefit from being a "member of the club", and it runs deep. It includes the donors who expect to be able use their donor status to get "problems" fixed. It includes the lower-level officials who need the cash of the donors to pay their own salaries (and get side benefits from being the "go to" guys for getting problems fixed). It includes the campaign consultants, who get paid millions every election season. The delegates, who have to be individually "wooed", are part of the Establishment.

People haven't really realized this before, when they talked about the Establishment.

18 posted on 04/16/2016 12:29:05 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: MarDav

The real Wizard of Oz is revealed behind the curtain.


19 posted on 04/16/2016 1:00:10 PM PDT by Ozark Tom (Political party: Union whose leadership sold out to a shell corporation and stuck you with the dues.)
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To: TheNext
A majority is a requirement for the nomination at the national convention.

Since you are so literate, perhaps you can tell me what method has been historically used to select the party candidate.

20 posted on 04/16/2016 8:39:01 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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