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Ted Cruz is freaked out about inflation. But there has been absolutely none for a year.
Vox ^ | November 14, 2015 | Timothy B. Lee

Posted on 11/14/2015 8:29:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of conservative voters — especially those old enough to have lived through the high inflation of the 1970s — are convinced that America is currently suffering from an inflation problem. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) pandered to those voters in a recent Republican presidential debate, blaming the "loose money" policies of the Federal Reserve for raising the prices of various consumer products.

But new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that overall, prices aren't going up. At all.

Between September and October, prices actually fell slightly. And over the past year, the inflation rate was exactly 0.0 percent....

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TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; dailykos; demagogicparty; economy; election2016; inflation; markosmoulitsas; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; tedcruz; texas; timothyblee; vox
Oh, please!
1 posted on 11/14/2015 8:29:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly 0.
How...convenient.


2 posted on 11/14/2015 8:32:22 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if this Vox clown has been to the grocery store lately. Those prices sure aren’t staying flat, nor have they through the QE1, QE2, QE3, etc.

But I wouldn’t expect a leftist to understand economics.


3 posted on 11/14/2015 8:32:51 PM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: NYRepublican72

Energy and food are NOT included in the Federal inflation index. How convenient. The cost of a 1 lb chub of ground turkey I bought under Bush was $0.99...it is now north of $3.00. Idiot.


4 posted on 11/14/2015 8:35:44 PM PST by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But new data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that overall, prices aren't going up.

The only question is whether the writer is stupid enough to believe that, or whether he is just trying to squeeze Baghdad Bob out of a job.

5 posted on 11/14/2015 8:36:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is as you say, 2 dv,

Ted pandereth not. When gog runs the press, dollar value declines.

When gog sells promissory notes, the rich get richer.

When gog sells debt to China, we buy security, no one fights trillion dollar debtors.

Negative interest looms, and the time warp begins.

Ted stands correct, not corrected. Respectfully

Rab


6 posted on 11/14/2015 8:50:27 PM PST by Rabin
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To: NYRepublican72

I just got back from the grocery store. . .I don’t see how anyone can really afford to buy anything after they pay for their groceries. I should say that I never saw so much junk food that people were stashing in their carts. . and more times than not a child(ren) was accompanying them. So much for nutrition and hello ADHD.


7 posted on 11/14/2015 8:56:16 PM PST by Maudeen (Sinner Saved by Grace)
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To: 50sDad

And, rents our little town are 150% of what they were 5 years ago. That is a big bite.


8 posted on 11/14/2015 9:09:16 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
One must realize that the CPI is “adjusted” year to year to reflect what they say is the average consumer basket of goods. With this methodology one can make the consumer price index say anything you want.

A can of Campbell Tomato Soup cost 40 cents the day Obama was sworn into office. Today it is 80 cents. See link below for graph of their soup prices. Also note the graph is on semi-log paper thus the rise does not seem as great.

Inflation is here and it is real despite what Washington DC is telling you.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sGKCI-QgY7s/VX30GeHN6hI/AAAAAAAAMAY/rkU6lrksFSk/s1600/Campbells-Condensed-Tomato-Soup-Unit-Price-per-Can-at-Discounted-Sale-Pricing-1898-01-thru-2015-06-log-scale.png

9 posted on 11/14/2015 9:30:25 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Rabin

Excellent post!


10 posted on 11/14/2015 9:47:56 PM PST by caprock
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But of course there's "no inflation" .... Obama's political-appointee pukes at the Hilda Solis [Communist]-staffed BLS rolled in wages, which neatly offset all the other cost increases.

Oh, what a good job we do ... rigging the indices!

You might call it "defining inflation downward". Sort of like Pat Moynihan's definition of what the left was doing 20 years ago with moral perversion, "defining deviancy downward".

11 posted on 11/14/2015 9:55:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: NYRepublican72

Libtard saying unemployment is low, too


12 posted on 11/15/2015 12:32:03 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No inflation? Only by the idiotic measure the government uses which ignores food and energy. Food prices have skyrocketed over the last several years


13 posted on 11/15/2015 12:48:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Data? From the same administration that gives us a 5% unemployment rate with 92,000,000 people out of work? All you have to do is go to the grocery store, or look at your new tax assessment, or how about the new (federal) flood insurance cost? I’m on a fixed income, I have less to spend now than a year ago...everything else is a LIE from this corrupt administration.


14 posted on 11/15/2015 5:21:08 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a load. The wife and I were just talking about this.

I bought a pizza, it was in a huge box. The packaging is a gimmick where they sell the box for the same price they did 5 years ago, only the pizza inside is half the size.

I hand a “hungry mans’ TV dinner. They used to pride themselves as having lots of food in them. They are about half what they used to be at the same price.


15 posted on 11/15/2015 5:27:16 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
fwiw, data from this site:
Year 2014 2015 Change
24 Pack Coke $7.18 $5.98 -$1.20
5 Lb Bag Flour $1.98 $1.46 -$0.52
Chicken Soup $1.35 $1.34 -$0.01
Frozen Pizza $2.98 $2.50 -$0.48
Gallon Gas $2.75 $2.21 -$0.54
KW Hour Elec 12.72 12 -$0.72
Lb Bacon $5.48 $5.24 -$0.24
Lb Green Grapes $1.98 $1.48 -$0.50
Lb Ground Beef $5.98 $5.26 -$0.72
Lb TasteLikeButter $2.88 $2.88 $0.00
Lg Cornflakes $2.98 $2.93 -$0.05
Loaf Bread $1.98 $1.98 $0.00
New House Buy $373,500 $364,100 -$9,400.00
Tide Soap Powder $17.97 $11.76 -$6.21
Toilet Paper $3.98 $3.98 $0.00

We often like to say cheaper prices are better and turn right around and say we ought to get a raise.  Fact is that when prices like these go down folks tend to buy less now figuring that they'll be lower tomorrow, or at least their wages will be. 

What ever we decide about today's prices, we got to realize that the deflation of the 1930's was a lot worse than the inflation of 1980.

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16 posted on 11/15/2015 7:24:56 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Respectfully disagree. My grocery bills, which content pretty much don’t vary that much week to week have gone up slightly the past year. Have you been pricing fresh meat lately? Gas prices have dropped, so your overall premise is correct.


17 posted on 11/15/2015 7:33:33 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Inflation has not been a recent problem. However, there seem to be people who believe that if they want to be a critic of government policy, then they have to believe that there is inflation.

The real concern lately has been the prospect of deflation - falling prices. A little inflation is much preferable to deflation. How can a producer invest in plant, equipment and labor if at the end of the process, the finished good will be worth less than what it cost to produce it? And, looking at the problem from the consumer side, why should a consumer buy something today if he/she believes that he/she can pay less by buying tomorrow?

Deflation - falling prices - is very destructive to an economy. It discourages both production and consumption.

18 posted on 11/15/2015 7:43:39 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: catfish1957
Respectfully disagree. My grocery bills...

Your grocery bills may very well have gone up over the past say, 2 years, but one problem here is that national inflation policy has to consider everyone's bills on everything along with of course your bills on just groceries.  The other problem is that you're not posting any dates and numbers, just your sense of what's happening.  That's the key because the misunderstanding here is a number/feelings thing. 

Everyone feels that we got runaway inflation so folks that want votes or run a political forum use that feeling to their advantage.  Numbers are what they are however and anyone who say, insists the price of oil is up and starts drilling in an under producing field will lose money no matter what everyone feels.  Same w/ real estate.  Same with anything else w/ falling prices.

19 posted on 11/15/2015 9:18:41 AM PST by expat_panama
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