Posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I'm shocked that he's shocked, and I do not mean that as a joke.
He is a professional. He is a focus-grouper and high consultant. I imagine he reads a lot of polls too, and probably runs some.
And yet he didn't know the anger brewing at the Establishment.
I am truly shocked.
No matter how low my estimations of our political class, they keep failing to meet my expectations.
I complained on Friday that the vaunted consultant class does not know the most elemental things about the "constituency" they're paid to advise clients about. I put "constituency" in quotes because it's quite plain they do not consider the actual grassroots voter as their constituency. In fact, they do not consider them at all.
I have previously said -- and I've said this a dozen times before, especially in the 2007 amnesty fight -- that the Establishment in DC, paid millions and feted as gurus of the political pulse of the nation -- knows far, far less than the base than the average low-level blogger who bothers to read his comments and talk with them.
By the way, of course: That's expressly the reason Andrew Breitbart read the comments, especially here. Well, one reason was that he simply enjoyed them. But the other reason, he told me, was to figure out where people, as a mass, were on issues, where their passion was, where they were going.
You would think that these well-paid consultants, claiming the ability to channel the sentiments of the party, would do this very most basic sort of research into the national mood.
It's all open source, @$$holes. You don't have to pay a dime to do what Breitbart used to, which is to use some program to suck up all comments into a file so he could read them when he didn't have the internet (on a plane, etc.)
But no -- High Guru Frank Luntz is shocked to the point of his legs shaking as the world reels beneath his feet to discover the grassroots really, really despises the Establishment, and no longer trusts them, and in fact considers them political enemies in the same way they consider the Democrats to be political enemies.
This is news to them.
Good work, @$$holes.
You're the Smart Ones, right? The "political elite" who employ all sorts of sophisticated and cunning techniques to divine the national mood, huh?
Did you ever think to ask them, Geniuses?
"You guys understand how significant this is?" Luntz asked the press breathlessly when he came back into the room behind the glass. "This is real. I'm having trouble processing it. Like, my legs are shaking."
"I want to put the Republican leadership behind this mirror and let them see. They need to wake up. They don’t realize how the grassroots have abandoned them," Luntz continued. "Donald Trump is punishment to a Republican elite that wasn't listening to their grassroots."
He's shocked to learn this! This is only said 50 times in any thread about Trump!
The group said Trump has their best interests in mind, while other Republicans are looking out for themselves. "We've got to show the Republicans that we've had it with them, that we will not be there every single time. They treat us like crap and they lie to us and promise us things and then they expect us to vote again," said a Republican woman....
Much of Trump’s support in the room seemed to stem from a weakness in the Republican party. The 2014 midterms did not usher in the conservative renaissance Republicans expected. Obamacare has still not been repealed, Congress is looking less likely to override a veto on the Iran deal, and there are still 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States.
The group of 29 went around the room, each supplying a single adjective for the legislative body that let them down after the 2014 elections. Congress "does nothing." It's "too old." "Useless." "Lame." "Inept." "Wrong party." "Cocktail party." "Gridlock." "Costly. "Sold out." "Sucks." "Douchebags."
The political class is useless and must be swept away, completely. Not only do they have an agenda contrary to most of the voters' interests, but even when it comes to the thing they're supposed to be good at, be experts at, they're totally incompetent and in fact absolutely pathetic.
I'll give Trump this much: He is right to call them "morons." They should be called what they are. They are failures, they are incompetent, and they're a disaster.
I'm sure they'll "hit all their numbers," though.
(VIDEO-AT-LINK)
We keep voting for the people who say the right things, over the people who say the wrong things. But then the people we vote for don’t do what they said. Yeah we’re mad at them.
Even if the establishment tried to correct this - who would believe them? Not I!!!
People say the right things to one side, others say the right things to the other side. All get paid off handsomely in the end. We have absolute corruption. Call out every one of them.
I want to hear what the American People want. Right now we’re only hearing what the Rich Affluent establishment media moguls and their political minions, the RINO, the GOPe, the Progressives.
Yes it’s true Trump is rich and affluent, But i’m going to put more faith in the recently converted and gamble on Trump. I don’t think anybody has lost any money betting on Trump all the time.
Frank, try taking the 150 pounds off that you put on over the last few years. Your legs are shaking because they can hardly hold your fat ass up!
The Establishment and their Democrat allies have governed badly, and deserve what naturally follows.
It is my belief that we are witnessing the final overthrow of the Republican party from within. If Trump is elected the Republican party will cease to exist. Yes... there will still be a party called Republican, but it wont be the same party anymore than the Democratic party was the same after the 1968 convention.
The result will be a complete realignment of BOTH political parties.
Matthew 7:15-20New King James Version (NKJV)
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
(15) “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. (16) You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? (17) Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. (18) A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. (19) Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (20) Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
A funny thing happened on the way to the plan: Frank Luntz got schooled into how impossible it is to flamboozle people with a solid ideology and actual principles.
He should have learned that lesson two years ago, when The Koch Brothers and several other rich CoC pro-illegal groups tried to convince conservatives that "comprehensive immigration reform" was really a "very conservative idea."
American Solutions -- note the Orwellian contradiction inherent in the name -- put on a $100 million ad-buy on talk radio and Fox News, and moved the conservative grass roots position on amnesty exactly zero points in the polls. I'm sure Rush and all the rest were very happy to take their money.
But here's what shocks me: apparently Frank Luntz can be educated. Wow. Who'da thunk it?
Here’s what I think.
Trump has emboldened a lot of people who simply checked out. They haven’t been acting on their anger, because really, what’s the point? Why not just try to go about daily life as best you can...and not worry about how we are getting screwed by obama and how the GOP is more or less facilitating him.
But now people are seeing that they are not alone.
They say, “hey...I sort of like Trump.”
Then they see that he is winning? And they say, “you know what? I REALLY like Trump! And I’m not alone!”
And with that...you soon reach a Tipping Point.
If Trump is elected the Republican party will cease to exist.”
Elaborate?
I’m almost thinking...it’s about time for me to get re-involved in the GOP!
Trump doesn’t like Luntz and decided to screw him over by calling him out and saying he wouldn’t hire him and telling Fox he should be fired....knowing a puke like Luntz would take it personally just like he has.
Like most consultants, Luntz is convinced he is the smartest person in any room he happens to walk into.
He has no idea how how real the hate is.
There are freepers who are the same way, clueless.
Here is a tag line from one Freeper:
(Are crybaby Conservatives, calling everyone else RINOs, really Dems trying to get you to not vote?)
If these people have no idea how pissed real conservatives are I hold no hope for the next election. I see it as just another loss even if the republicans win.
The current leadership of the GOP must go even if it means the dems win. If the current leadership is still in place after the election nothing will change.
And I will say it again for the retard with the above tag line, I will not vote rino again period.
I like your thoughts.
Amen!
It used to be that Luntz WAS the smartest guy in the room when it came to running focus groups. I met him back in 1993 during an Empower America campaign finance and administration seminar. Seemed to be a nice guy, well grounded and smart back then.
Now? Meh, not so much.
I think the part he missed is the change in who makes up "likely voters" as a result of Trump's shenanigans ;)
This is in microcosm the problem Cruz is having: you can’t say “I sponsored legislation” because now the distrust is so high that ANYTHING short of full victory is assumed to be part of a game.
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