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What became of communism in Vietnam?
American Thinker ^ | 23 Apr, 2024 | Greg Young

Posted on 04/23/2024 8:47:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Rainer Zitelmann's book, How Nations Escape Poverty, is particularly interesting for American veterans who served as G.I.s in Vietnam or for those who may have lost their fathers or family members in the conflict.

The irony of history is that the communists initially won — however, upon establishing their socialist regime across Vietnam, they came to realize what a huge mistake they had made. Today, young Vietnamese in particular admire the USA and capitalism, as Zitelmann’s book shows. He asked the Vietnamese which economic systems they admire and which they reject. According to the survey data, people in Vietnam have a strong preference for the economic systems in Japan, South Korea, and Singapore, while hardly anyone approves of North Korea. And among the younger generation in Vietnam, the USA is in second place.

What made America the most successful and greatest country in history? Two things: first, capitalism (the belief in the superiority of the market economy and entrepreneurship) and second, the American spirit — i.e., the belief that you are responsible for your own life and can achieve anything through good ideas and hard work.

In recent years, these two convictions have weakened. A growing number of young Americans, in particular, have come to doubt the superiority of capitalism. This is a failure of our school system and our universities. Many young Americans simply do not know enough about the history of socialism and capitalism.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: communistvietnam; fakenews; marxism; theyrestillcommies; vietnam
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1 posted on 04/23/2024 8:47:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Many young Americans simply do not know enough about the history of socialism and capitalism.

This cannot be said often enough.

2 posted on 04/23/2024 8:47:29 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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it is individualism v collectivism

if the individual is primary

the country prospers

if the state is primary

the country suffers


3 posted on 04/23/2024 8:50:59 AM PDT by joshua c
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or their definitions and the implications thereof.

in the end, they’re both about power.

incidentally, it’s said that Viet Nam is sitting on a whole bunch of oil.


4 posted on 04/23/2024 8:51:00 AM PDT by xoxox
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We need to prime the pump. Move Chicom supporting businesses there.

Give them the $4 billion Kissinger promised.


5 posted on 04/23/2024 8:54:22 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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The Vietnam of today is still communist, period. The mainland Chinese government of today is still communist, period. The differences is they both realized the communist method of running an economy simply did not work. They are now both a blend of communism, with it’s firm control over the people, and a capitalist economy. With this the peoples of both are generally happier than they were under communist totalitarian regimes such as the USSR and Mao’s China.

China’s goal is to take over our country, that has never changed. Vietnam IMO is much softer and see’s China as an enemy more so than the US. In a coming pacific war, I see the possibility of Vietnam actually being an ally of ours in a Chinese war.


6 posted on 04/23/2024 8:55:04 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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The excerpt doesn’t actually say what became of communism in Vietnam. Young people “preferring” something in a poll means nothing. Are the communists still in charge, with just a veneer of capitalism, like in China?


7 posted on 04/23/2024 8:56:36 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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(incidentally, it’s said that Viet Nam is sitting on a whole bunch of oil.)

It is. I dated a girl who’s brother is a tool pusher on an oil rig there offshore. He’s been drilling there for over 20 years and making a killing.


8 posted on 04/23/2024 8:58:08 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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yes it is fascism

just like china


9 posted on 04/23/2024 8:59:57 AM PDT by joshua c
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I travel regularly to Vietnam for business

People there, certainly in the south anyway, are quite pro-American. 15 years ago in Saigon and environs, I would regularly have local men come up to me, telling me they served in such-and-such a place, and would recite names of American units and commanders. Many fewer now, probably because they are getting old and not “out and about” as much.

Vietnam quickly morphed into a “standard” authoritarian “oriental” regime. Its structure is communist, but its ideology is party control, social stability, nationalism and economic growth.

IMHO, Vietnam communism never went through an extreme “cultural revolution” phase that Russia and China did. Culture, religion and society were never put through the meat-grinder of Russia in the 1930s and China in the 1960s. Thus people were able to quickly return to “normal” lives once the Soviet Union fell.

Final note - I have never seen more openly devout Catholics/Christians than in South Vietnam. I visited a Catholic Church in Buonmethuot in the central highlands and saw what must have been 2000 people attending an ordinary Sunday mass. Parishoners filled the church and the crowed spilled out to the front lawn and courtyard.


10 posted on 04/23/2024 9:02:09 AM PDT by PGR88
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“The Vietnam of today is still communist, period. The mainland Chinese government of today is still communist, period. The differences is they both realized the communist method of running an economy simply did not work. They are now both a blend of communism, with it’s firm control over the people, and a capitalist economy. “

They are fascist, by definition.


11 posted on 04/23/2024 9:07:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“What became of communism in Vietnam?”

Let me ask the tag in the back of my shirt that says “Made in Vietnam”.


12 posted on 04/23/2024 9:07:23 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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Vietnam, good retirement location?


13 posted on 04/23/2024 9:09:39 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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Definitely affordable.


14 posted on 04/23/2024 9:10:12 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: redfreedom

Vietnam is authoritarian, like Singapore.


15 posted on 04/23/2024 9:16:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber

The Vietnamese Communist Party is still in control.


16 posted on 04/23/2024 9:17:34 AM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: ducttape45

Many have retired there for an affordable and peaceful life.


17 posted on 04/23/2024 9:18:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Wuli

They made a deal to basically allow people economic freedom, as long as they don’t ‘rock the boat’.


18 posted on 04/23/2024 9:20:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Who’s whose hoos?

Haha!

Spellcheck grammar gag of the day!!!


19 posted on 04/23/2024 9:21:32 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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I’m seeing more and more stuff “made in vietnam”


20 posted on 04/23/2024 9:40:39 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Why do "overlook" and "oversee" mean opposite things?)
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