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What are we gonna do about Gaza, then?
FR ^ | March 20 | RF

Posted on 03/20/2024 2:31:06 AM PDT by RandFan

I'm getting concerned myself about this crisis and what's unfolding. Yes, the daily news reports are having an effect on me.

Conditions look horrific and the charities are warning hundreds of thousands face famine or acute hunger within weeks or the next month.

Aid is not getting through to them so yes, i'm concerned considering the numbers.

Please try and show some compassion. I dont mind if you flame me for this.

This could be a proper humanitarian crisis unless it gets resolved.

I sincerely wish those idiots in charge there would do what we all want and release the hostages.

However, this cannot be the fault of starving and malnourished children.

Sorry! šŸ˜¢

Anyone else feel this way? Maybe I'm alone here on this... :/

I don't mind really, there are diverse opinions.

Maybe I'm like the canary in the coalmine?


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To: Rockingham
Israel should establish a series of security camps in and near Gaza in which screened, bona fide, non-Hamas, and non-Hamas supporting civilians are temporarily resettled. The camps should be open to inspection and financing by the UN, the US, and friendly Arab nations.ā€¦(continues)ā€¦.

Excellent post, and exactly what I suggested earlier in the thread. The ā€˜kill them all and let God sort them outā€™ mindset prevalent here is not truly Godā€™s way, at least not to my belief.

81 posted on 03/20/2024 4:39:57 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: RandFan

Nothing. I donā€™t care if Israel pushes them into the ocean.

They are irredeemable savages.


82 posted on 03/20/2024 4:40:24 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: RandFan

WIKI

A Handbook for Military Government in Germany was ready in August 1944: it advocated a quick restoration of normal life for the German people and reconstruction of Germany. Henry Morgenthau Jr. brought it to the attention of President Franklin D. Roosevelt who, after reading it, rejected it with the words:

Too many people here and in England hold the view that the German people as a whole are not responsible for what has taken place ā€“ that only a few Nazis are responsible. That unfortunately is not based on fact. The German people must have it driven home to them that the whole nation has been engaged in a lawless conspiracy against the decencies of modern civilization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Plan


83 posted on 03/20/2024 4:40:54 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RandFan

they use any opportunity to import more weapons and supplies for their terrorist bases, terrorist tunnels, and gear for their murder attacks on innocent Israeli citizens.

there are tons and tons and tons and TONS of food being dropped into the Fakestinian-Occupied Gaza district by the Israeli Air Force, by planes of foreign countries as approved and protected by the IAF, by long lines of direct Israeli truck convoys, and from the sea by ship with the approval and protection of the Israeli Navy, IAF, and marines.

Also Israel is even starting to give free food from drone airdrops.

If anyone at all is going hungry in Gaza district, other than of course the Israeli hostages the Fakestinian terrorists continue to hold there...........it is because the Fakestinian terrorist murder gangsters THAT the socalled civilians chose and enable and support and applaud......are stealing the food from Israel and elsewhere, and they are selling it on the black market to raise more money to buy more bombs and missiles and ammo with which to murder more innocent people.

Please start studying the real world situation and stop reading the bullkrap lies in the mass media!

and whatever, please don’t parrot the fake concerns you see in the mass media. Did USA provide warnings to clear the areas and did USA drop tons of free food on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Dresden (which we set fire to and basically burned to a crisp with thousands of “civilian” casualties)
Did USA drop tons of free food on the Balkans when our planes suddenly came overhead to fire thousands of bombs on residential neighborhoods? Ask Hillary how much free food she sent her victims. Did USA ship free food into Mexico when we invaded and seized almost half of their country? Did USA ship free food into Central America on any of our Dozens of military attacks there?

At least during active wartime, the answers to all of these questions and many many more similar questions ... are resounding NO WAY, NEVER, and ARE YOU NUTS?

War is war. The Fakestinians started it by invading and murdering 1300 innocent people in their homes, schools, and communities. And wounding another 400-plus. Not quite as many as died at Pearl Harbor but getting up there. (And unlike at Pearl Harbor, these victims were almost all civilians not serving on active duty in the military.)

War is war. Personally, I would understand it if the Israelis did NOT deliver one more free lunch to Gaza, period. Instead, give a humanitarian 24 hour advance warning and then level the place, completely level it. the socalled civilians will return to their home countries (Egypt, mostly, and Arabia). An additional benefit is that Egypt and Arabia know how to deal with their own Arab terrorists while Israel patently does not. We won’t be hearing about much Fakestinian terrorism in the future!

At any event, please stop crying for these evil basturds. They’ve proven themselves to be dangerous as Hall. the quicker they’re eliminated the better for all decent innocent civilians everywhere.


84 posted on 03/20/2024 4:51:26 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (ā€œPoliticians are not born. They're excreted.ā€ Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

Wow. You should really consider a new handle with thoughts like that.

And donā€™t confuse me as an apologist for Hamas, because Iā€™m not, and their attack on Israel is one of the most atrocious terrorist attacks in history. But every person in Gaza is not a Hamas supporter, either. Many of them are proverbial hostages as well.


85 posted on 03/20/2024 4:59:40 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: RandFan

WIKI

The Central Elections Commission released the final results on Sunday, 29 January 2006, and announced that Change and Reform (Hamas) had won 74 of the 132 seats, while Fatah trailed with 45.

The Central Elections Commission said turnout was 74.6%ā€“76.0% in the Gaza Strip and 73.1% in the West Bank.

Fatah refused to join a new Hamas-led coalition. President Abbas would ask Hamas to form the next Government. On 26 January 2006, Fatah leader Saeb Erakat said his party did not want to join a Hamas Government. The Fatah Central Committee decided that Fatah will not join the next Government, but said it would depend on President Abbas. On 28 January 2006, Hamas declared it would try to form a Government of technocrats, if a government with Fatah and all the political groups was not possible. On 29 January 2006, PLC deputies from Fatah confirmed after talks with Abbas that their faction would not join Hamas in a coalition Government and would prefer to sit in opposition, despite calls by Hamas for a “political partnership”. The decision was, however, not discussed and ratified by the Fatah Central Committee.

Hamas formed a government without Fatah, the secular party that had dominated Palestinian politics for decades. Ismail Haniyeh was nominated as Prime Minister on 16 February 2006 and sworn in on 29 March 2006. Conditions on the ground deteriorated almost immediately, as Fatah did not take defeat easily. Fatah-Hamas tensions were expressed in a significant deterioration of law and order, and incidents of open violence between the two groups led to dozens of deaths, particularly in the Gaza Strip. In September 2006, with Fatah support, the public sector, which had hardly been paid since March, went on strike. The Fatah “inclusionists” wanted to help Hamas become more moderate, so that a coalition would become possible. Fatah’s “old guard,” on the other hand, wanted to exclude Hamas from the political process, by ensuring its failure.

After months of intermittent talks, on 8 February 2007, Fatah and Hamas signed an agreement to form a national unity government aimed at ending both the spasm of violence and the international aid embargo that followed the formation of the initial Hamas-led government.

After Hamas took over the Gaza Strip on 14 June 2007, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas dismissed the Hamas-led coalition government, and on 15 June appointed Salam Fayyad as Prime Minister to form a new government. Hamas objected to this move as being illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election


86 posted on 03/20/2024 5:00:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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After hearing what they did to innocent children, wives, families in October. What they did in front of them. The atrocities the elected leadership of Gaza committed, I support turning the entire strip into glass.

They should be spray painting parking lot lines on the entire strip by now.


87 posted on 03/20/2024 5:01:49 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: RandFan

Even in wartime, Israel’s government is fractured. They would be slow to reach consensus and agreement on a plan as I suggest due in part to the continuing suffering of Israel’s own victims of October 7 and the diversion of resources from the war effort. Israel also no doubt wants international support and approval for any camp building. My guess is nevertheless that something like what I suggest is in the discussion and planning stages.


88 posted on 03/20/2024 5:05:28 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: faithhopecharity

“raise more money to buy more bombs and missiles and ammo”

Hamas aid thieves are just stuffing their pockets.

Israel will block all weapons shipments into Gaza.


89 posted on 03/20/2024 5:09:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: RandFan

Aid is not getting thru because Hamas is stealing the Aid Trucks.
Solution kill Hamas.


90 posted on 03/20/2024 5:19:50 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (ā€œLess propaganda would be appreciated.ā€ JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: RandFan

WE should not be doing anything! This is a muslim problem. Where is the Red Crescent and other muslim charities? Why aren’t the muslims helping their own people?


91 posted on 03/20/2024 5:21:00 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord. Lord, hear my voice: Psalm 130)
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To: RandFan

There is nothing we can do about this except pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

This is Zechariah and/or Psalm 83 playing out here, and it’s NOT going to end well for the US.

Make sure your id tag says “Made by Jesus”, and get ready for a major deportation.


92 posted on 03/20/2024 5:25:06 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

Zechariah 12 that is.


93 posted on 03/20/2024 5:25:44 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: RandFan

You do know Hamas is stealing their food, right? Personally, I don’t care what happens to them.


94 posted on 03/20/2024 5:38:09 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Golden Eagle

No, not every Fakestinian is a Hamas terrorist but a lot of them are terrorists or support the terrorists.

I hate wars. Not least because there are always sone civilian casualties. While almost all American Pearl Harbor casualties were military, there were a few civilians killed there too. There were thousands of civilian Germans killed in our bombing of WW2. There were millions of Soviet/Russians killed in WW2, mostly civilians.

Hopefully the IDF will be completing its eradication of the Fakestinian terrorists asap. Meanwhile, and despite the unprecedented humanitarian measures the Israelis are taking, there will inevitably be more casualties. Because Hamas hides behind civilians as shields. Because many Fakestinian civilians are terrorist supporters to begin with. And just because everybody including any innocents are in a battle zone.

Best,


95 posted on 03/20/2024 5:46:06 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (ā€œPoliticians are not born. They're excreted.ā€ Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: RandFan

Well, ā€œthe newsā€ is anti-Israel. And for the most part, will continue to be.
How did you feel on October 8 of last year when we started to see the horrors of what the Hamas attacks on innocent people, men women, and children.
Did that not make your blood run cold? It did mine.

The Israelis need to clear out that viperā€™s nest that is called Gaza.
It is necessary for their survival.

What part of that donā€™t you understandā€¦.


96 posted on 03/20/2024 5:46:10 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! šŸ”­)
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To: RandFan

They brought it upon themselves.Did they honestly think that the Israelis were going to do nothing about it. This is like the Darwin Awards to an exponentially absurdly high degree. The Gazans are responsible for their own destruction.


97 posted on 03/20/2024 5:49:45 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! šŸ”­)
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To: RandFan

Once Hamas is destroyed and Gaza is Hamas free, the coalition will click in.

A Protectorate will be created governed by Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and in some role America.

Israel will provide security, Egypt will be pacifier and Saudi Arabia and the UAE will provide and raise the money for existence and rebuilding.

What was isn’t and will not be.

The protectorate will last at least ten years


98 posted on 03/20/2024 5:50:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: RandFan

Clarity:

I wish that democrats in this country would suffer the same fate, and would have no problem with a like discussion as we continued to bomb the crap out of them.


99 posted on 03/20/2024 5:58:42 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: RandFan
Over the years I've seen several of the films of dying children, wounded civilians and even funerals that the Palestinians have produced for propaganda. Very believable stuff except for the drone footage where the kid forgot to keep his eyes closed or the dead man left the stretcher before he was buried. The Palestinians have a long history of dying for the camera so it's a little hard for me to feel any sympathy now.
100 posted on 03/20/2024 6:01:36 AM PDT by Bearshouse (Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. *Thomas Jefferson)
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