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1 posted on 12/17/2023 10:56:21 AM PST by Chickensoup
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I am not sure where to get vitamin and mineral advice particularly ratios. Pcp sends me to nutritionist who is clueless. Osteopathy? Naturopaths?

I understand now that ratios od vitamins D magnesium and calcium have to be looked after to not demineralize bones or clog arteries.

Your thoughts appreciated.

I will leave this here and come back to it later.


2 posted on 12/17/2023 10:56:33 AM PST by Chickensoup
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Michael Savage, yes that one, is in expert on the topic and has written a couple of books on it. Highly recommend checking into it. Also, see if you can find the Vitamin Bible, and check out Dr. Eric Berg on youtube.


4 posted on 12/17/2023 10:58:58 AM PST by fightin kentuckian
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I have tried nutritionists in the past too, and also find them useless for any real help.


5 posted on 12/17/2023 10:59:14 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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I subscribe to https://www.consumerlab.com/

ConsumerLab tests the vitamins and herbs for quality. The site also provides a distillation of studies involving vitamins, minerals, and herbs etc.

6 posted on 12/17/2023 11:02:29 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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I'm guessing something is showing up on your blood tests. Also, describe yourself...age height weight..existing known problems.

If you're talking a nutritionist, you might be able to figure it out yourself.

8 posted on 12/17/2023 11:06:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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Look for a doctor that advocates for Naturopathic/Holistic care which encompasses a vitamin/herb regime rather than immediately prescribing chemical drugs. They usually also include chiropractic and acupuncture treatments. Just do a search in your area for “Naturopathic/Holistic” physicians.

My mother had such a physician and I believe his treatment helped her live for years longer than she would have under traditional treatment. The mushroom vitamins were expensive but her cancer cells started shrinking after about sixty days on the mushroom based vitamins he put her on. Her cancer doctor was surprised since he had expected the spot on her lung to have grown in size.


9 posted on 12/17/2023 11:09:03 AM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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The scientific test results of supplements are generally not impressive. That’s surprising when one might expect to see positive outcomes from taking anti-oxident or omega 3 supplements for example but really don’t.
Yet those things in your diet can help.

Vitamin D3 is one of the few supplements with a significant positive results, but many people probably take too high a dose.

You mentioned calcium, you should really be careful and think twice about that one since it can actually have negative effects in some people.

I personally take magnesium, but I suggest avoiding magnesium citrate due to very poor absorbtion. I take magnesium glycinate, and am considering some other variants.

I take a few other things.
I’m not qualified to give advice, but I enjoy posting anyway


10 posted on 12/17/2023 11:09:07 AM PST by Mount Athos
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My OB sent me to a nutritionist in 1994. As an RN, I was beyond disgusted, aside from her obesity. Right up there with the clueless, brainwashed, jab pushers that spew back on a test the appropriate lies to get licensed and join the cabal.


11 posted on 12/17/2023 11:09:13 AM PST by pops88 ( Helping usher the glory of God into Las Vegas)
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Try Life Extension. Their website has detailed health protocols, recommendations, and testing services.

Advice as to nutrition is complicated by the effects of diet, health issues that may cause malabsorption or increased requirements, medications that can increase requirements, and the particular nutritional compound taken.

As for Vitamin D, magnesium, and calcium, magnesium is hard to measure in the body and tends to be hard to absorb unless it is taken in an amino acid chelated form. Most Americans get enough calcium, but tend to have inadequate magnesium and Vitamin D.

12 posted on 12/17/2023 11:11:14 AM PST by Rockingham (`)
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Nutritionists are mainly focused on nutrition and how to eat health-wise.

Your primary doctor is a good place to start but you might also consult a seasoned herbalist. Here is one that has a local radio program.
https://www.rhondadial.com/ Just an example.

At first I was a big skeptical but Rhonda has taught me a lot. Her focus is on foods and supplements and how each person’s need in this area can be unique. First you have to find out what’s lacking or out of balance. Herbalists can often be somewhat zealous but they can be useful. At least in this area they are not necessarily fruitcakes.


13 posted on 12/17/2023 11:11:16 AM PST by plain talk
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Find a great naturopathic doctor to Promote health instead of just fighting infection and symptoms.

Avoid turning your acute health issues into chronic disease money-makers for the medical-industrial-political system.


14 posted on 12/17/2023 11:16:17 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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If you can do math then you can do the ratios yourself if you buy only single supplements rather than depnding on buying the correct mixtures. Actually if you have combinations of mixtures and singles you can also get the ratios right, although the math is slightly harder. Still high school math at most, though. You do have to know what mixture you want, of course.


16 posted on 12/17/2023 11:17:26 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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PCP??


17 posted on 12/17/2023 11:19:08 AM PST by sasquatch
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99 % of “supplement” pimping is nothing but money making grifts. Just eat a well balanced selection of food and devil take the hind most.


18 posted on 12/17/2023 11:25:49 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Kramer knows a guy...


22 posted on 12/17/2023 11:32:44 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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I second Rockingham’s Life Extension recommendation. lef.org


24 posted on 12/17/2023 11:34:18 AM PST by SFmom
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Vitamin C: take as much as you need to feel right; it is safer than water; there is no lethal dose.

Vitamin D: keep your blood level at 50-100 ng/ml; you need a blood test to really know. Rule of thumb: average people 4000-5000 IU/day, indoor people 7000-8000 IU/day, outdoor people 2000-3000 IU day.

B-vitamins: A good multivitamin should cover this; I take Life Extension’s 2 per day, and also add 500 mg niacinamide + 100 mg niacin.

Zinc: 30-50 mg/day
Magnesium: ~400 mg/day
Boron ~3 mg/day
Chromium: 200 mcg/day
Selenium 200 mcg/day

Calcium/Iron: do not supplement; you will get enough in your diet, and overdose is toxic!

Copper: a tiny amount mixed with zinc is OK, otherwise do not supplement, it can also be toxic.

Coenzyme Q10: 100mg ubiquinone or 50 mg ubiquinol as soft gel; take more if you need more for energy.

PQQ: 20 mg/day or more for mitochondrial health.

Omega-3 fat: eat fish/flax or take capsules, but be sure your diet contains some.

Good luck with your health.


25 posted on 12/17/2023 11:34:59 AM PST by devere
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When I was 28 my general practice doctor told me to take a prenatal vitamin each day. I did. I have. I still do along with my wife of 42 years. The prenatal are the cheapest highest safe dose vitamin and mineral supplement you can take.


29 posted on 12/17/2023 11:43:24 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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I know your frustration. I know someone with severe liver issues who had a relative who paid over $10,000 to a nutritionist to customize a whole diet for him. He was diagnosed as a diabetic and on two drugs, at that point, too.

The dietician gave him the highest carb diet, possible, using old diabetic guidelines. He was told to buy these protein-free, nearly all maltodextrin shakes, as at least one meal, and his snacks, each day. This was NOT the new resistant starch version of maltodextrin.

I told the person and had it passed back to the relative that this diet would kill him. No protein or fat, but carbs like crazy.

Diabetes is a problem with insulin and glucose, the very things he most needed to limit, not relying on higher drug use, or a third drug.

After consternation, and talking with a different doctor than before, they scrapped the diet and he's doing a sort of low carb Mediterranean diet.

30 posted on 12/17/2023 11:44:00 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Look up nutrition value.org

Tells you alot about what you eat.


31 posted on 12/17/2023 11:51:17 AM PST by waterhill (I Believe all you need for home defense is an 870 and a Catahoula)
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