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B747 TAKEOFF WITHOUT PERMISSION | Close Call at Cincinnati (video)
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Posted on 09/19/2023 10:43:15 AM PDT by servo1969

Close Call at Cincinnati(CVG).

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Local News; Military/Veterans; Travel
KEYWORDS: atc; cincinnati; cvg; takeoff
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CKS690 taking off on Runway 27.
Kalitta Air(Connie) 690, Boeing 747-400 (quad-jet)

EDV5117 landing on intersecting Runway 18C.
Endeavor Air 5117, Canadair Regional Jet CRJ-900 (twin-jet)



Seems to me CKS690 was told 'line up and wait,' read back correctly, then after a bit just started rolling for take off. Sometimes every transmission isn't caught but I never heard them receive clearance.


1 posted on 09/19/2023 10:43:15 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

This sort of thing happens more than we know.


2 posted on 09/19/2023 10:52:34 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: servo1969

Correct. Connie 690 screwed up. Almost big time. Kudos to the ATC for catching it quickly.


3 posted on 09/19/2023 10:53:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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To: servo1969

But watching the whole thing...it didn’t look like the incoming flight intersected runway 27 that Connie 690 was on.


4 posted on 09/19/2023 10:57:22 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The jet landing on the intersecting runway took an exit prior to the intersection, so in reality a collision won’t going to happen.
kudos to the controller.


5 posted on 09/19/2023 11:02:21 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: servo1969

Almost a replay of what happened on Tannerife (sic?) back in the 70’s?. KLM 747 is told to hold but begins rolling for take-off after a brief pause. Plows into a Pan-Am 747 trying to find its way to a taxi-way after being directed onto the runway...


6 posted on 09/19/2023 11:02:34 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

In this case, the plane landing on 18C did not need to go to the intersection. But, it could have ended differently, for sure.


7 posted on 09/19/2023 11:05:55 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: servo1969

Is that chart from Jeppesen ?


8 posted on 09/19/2023 11:08:18 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: servo1969

No reason to be in such a rush.


9 posted on 09/19/2023 11:08:48 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: BradyLS

Our church, which is situated right outside Gate 6 of Seizure World, lost quite a few parishioners from that accident.


10 posted on 09/19/2023 11:11:47 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: servo1969

Was Harrison Ford the pilot?


11 posted on 09/19/2023 11:20:50 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: mikelets456

DEI hiring.


12 posted on 09/19/2023 11:25:53 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: mikelets456

I was on final approach with wheels down and suddenly the pilot hit full throttle and lifted the gear.
I knew right away someone messed up big time.


13 posted on 09/19/2023 11:34:54 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Gunslingr3

I have a friend that is a ground traffic controller at PHL. Next time I see him I’ll ask at what point the switch-over from GTC to ATC and vice versa takes place. Seems like that would always be a critical interval.


14 posted on 09/19/2023 11:35:15 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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To: BradyLS

I remember that. Heavy fog didn’t help.


15 posted on 09/19/2023 11:35:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Clearance to land means permission to use the entire runway.

Position and Hold means permission to SIT at the end of the runway. Not until ‘Cleared for takeoff’ does the aircraft have permission to use the runway.


16 posted on 09/19/2023 11:55:38 AM PDT by C210N (We're at war: Make them have to cheat so much it becomes comical, then ridicule them into oblivion.)
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To: servo1969

Mayor Peter Eater is too busy to do his job as SecTrans.


17 posted on 09/19/2023 11:56:56 AM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: servo1969

690 acknowledged “wait” and then didn’t...


18 posted on 09/19/2023 12:02:43 PM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: moovova

5117’s pilot sounded like she was 14 years old. (1:40 mark).


19 posted on 09/19/2023 12:06:31 PM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Gunslingr3

I have a friend that is a ground traffic controller at PHL. Next time I see him I’ll ask at what point the switch-over from GTC to ATC and vice versa takes place. Seems like that would always be a critical interval.


20 posted on 09/19/2023 12:09:52 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live. To live is to teach another. Fiat Lux!)
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