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1 posted on 05/22/2023 5:13:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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And all of this to appease the climate change cult. After this, maybe wrongthink can be found to cause climate change. How to get rid of that?


2 posted on 05/22/2023 5:13:52 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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So in other words, let’s be Venezuela and have rolling blackouts.

This word shifting BS they came up with is masterful.
Extremely good propaganda .


3 posted on 05/22/2023 5:17:14 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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Awake Yet?

That meme should be on billboards, t-shirts, social media everywhere.

4 posted on 05/22/2023 5:20:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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The good old smart meter turns you off for using power. HOW DARE YOU!

Interesting problem for the "net zero" profit end game. If people use less of something, the only profitable alternative is to charge more for less. That's the game. Inflate, whether in words and vocabulary, or in money.

5 posted on 05/22/2023 5:25:18 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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“Smart Thermostats. A/C and electric heating are controlled to reduce usage during peak times.”

Reduce usage during peak times, coupled with reducing usage during times of low (sometimes near-zero) generation.

This was the ONLY possibility and the writing has been on the wall for over a decade, at least for those who pay attention (after all, did anyone ever ask you if you wanted a ‘smart meter’?). Needless to say, BIG LIFESTYLE changes.

The smarter among us will learn how to hack into these systems (such as bypassing ‘smart’ thermostats), while the rest of the masses will learn how to live with some vague entity deciding when they are allowed to have power, and when they’re not.


6 posted on 05/22/2023 5:32:41 AM PDT by BobL
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Meanwhile, back on planet Earth
To replace a 100MW coal plant with a 100MW solar farm is easy. But the 100MW solar farm only produces 100MW from 10am to 4pm. So, you really need 18 hours of energy storage or 1800MWs. This requires 4 100MW solar farms since 3 are just for charging the batteries.

Replacing 1 100MW Coal plant requires 4 100MW solar farms and 1800MW of energy storage.

If you want to have backup for rainy days replacing 1 100MW coal plant requires 4200MW of energy storage and 8 100MW solar farms.


7 posted on 05/22/2023 5:33:15 AM PDT by MMusson
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8 posted on 05/22/2023 5:36:37 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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Right. When winter comes out come the old fashion double bladed axes and down come every tree in the neighborhood. There isn’t a police force on the planet big enough to stop that. These people live in a fantasy world.


9 posted on 05/22/2023 5:38:39 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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The government wants to own all the utilities....and you...and you will pay through the nose.

Here in Upstate, RG&E has provided gas and electric since the 50's....at least. Now a few folks got "bad" bills which have since been corrected. Some folks showed up at a Rochester meeting and said they want the government to take over. Ridiculous...wonder who's prodding them....

10 posted on 05/22/2023 5:46:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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The day I have to put up with blackouts had better also contain news of each and every elite’s residence being cut off from power and the inhabitants being afraid to go outside.

Not even close to kidding.


11 posted on 05/22/2023 5:57:55 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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There’s an old saying that says “close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades”. I guess we can add vaccines and green power to when close is good enough. It’s what happens when the truth gets a makeover.


12 posted on 05/22/2023 5:58:23 AM PDT by Spok (“Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?”)
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What is also needed is virtual grocery stores. Put them in blue cities — totally replacing all other sources of food, even take out restaurants.
Hungry? Login to the virtual food WWW site and they will tell you how to ignore hunger, yours and your children.

Solve the “excess” population problem in just days.

Oh, and just imagine how cheap the elites can snap up the now vacant food outlets and empty apartments. Gonna be loads cheaper than the burned out buildings created in 2020 by Antifa/BLM thugs.


13 posted on 05/22/2023 6:01:19 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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So then a Virtual Powerplant is just a fancy name for rolling blackouts?

Or more precisely, rolling micro blackouts of individual devices in each home be they the electric water heater, electric heat pump, electric air conditioning, electric stove, or electric vehicle recharging.


14 posted on 05/22/2023 6:10:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Oh, so it is blackouts, load deferral and somehow harvesting heat from the water tanks of the world?

I get it now. More BS.


18 posted on 05/22/2023 7:08:14 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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The only way to “save the planet” is to destroy those who would “save” it. The only way their plan works is if they kill enough useless eaters.


20 posted on 05/22/2023 7:22:45 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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“Distributed Generation”

This is dozens — tens of thousands of roof tops and other spaces — tops of shopping malls and parking structures as just two examples — all equipped with their own (smaller) battery banks, and all contributing to “the grid”.

Massive centralized generation and massive battery banks are inefficient, and “ten-ring vulnerable” as targets.

Distributed generation can’t easily be knocked out, as it comes from literally everywhere.

All the technology is now on the shelf to do this. Now. Today. Some residential solar electric systems already are tied in to their local grid and generate more than they use. Right now. Today.

Just make or incentivize many more. (Probably each one would be made a bit larger than they are at the moment, to provide some extra margin.)


23 posted on 05/22/2023 7:59:29 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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All the devises in your home will be controlled by the government and utilities.they will regulate the among a time of use. Not to mention the cost Apple seems to have started this already with their optimal charging.


25 posted on 05/22/2023 8:19:58 AM PDT by 5inch38gunner
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It’s one more front in the all-out war against your well-being now being waged by our government.


What is the purpose of government?


33 posted on 05/22/2023 9:06:29 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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The virtual power plant will be using Unobtainium as fuel.


40 posted on 05/22/2023 5:19:51 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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The “virtual power plant” is nothing more than than a descriptive term for the real problem. The same people have just created a new term for the same old line of crap; trying to make something out of nothing. We can’t change the climate, but we can adapt to it with the right resources...and it is not “green energy” or “virtual power plants”. Didn’t these folks learn anything in science or physics class, or did they even attend those classes? Bet they didn’t learn much(or anything) in civics class either or they wouldn’t be voting for the people they do.


41 posted on 05/24/2023 4:43:16 AM PDT by oldtech
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