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Religious Exemption - Need Help (Vanity)
11/17/21 | Self

Posted on 11/17/2021 10:51:38 AM PST by peggybac

Have to complete religious exemption form and need advice. Thank you in advance!


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1 posted on 11/17/2021 10:51:38 AM PST by peggybac
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Check out liberty counsel online. Fill out their form for assistance. They will send you call-in invites to meetings they have several times a week. Call into these meetings. You can get specific advice from lawyers by asking questions in the call. You can also hear other people’s situations and glean advice the lawyers give to them.


2 posted on 11/17/2021 10:55:21 AM PST by JoanSmith
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Liberty Counsel has an excellent step by step process

www.lc.org/exempt

first step is watch their starting video with Matt Staver

this is how you do it properly


3 posted on 11/17/2021 10:56:33 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Agree with both posters... Liberty Counsel is a good way to go. Go to their website as a first step.


4 posted on 11/17/2021 11:00:28 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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check out the form on GAB also, good luck


5 posted on 11/17/2021 11:00:57 AM PST by orbitboy
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The LC template is good, but you cannot just cut and paste. They advise you against such. You need to tailor it to YOUR beliefs.

Keep in mind the most common objections and rebuttals to those objections.

1. The abortion derived cell line testing. (Be prepared for the “Tylenol talking point.”) My answer to that talking point would be that there is a distinct difference between things that have their genesis and product development with abortion derived cell testing, and those products that were pre-existing (like Tylenol) that some person then decided to later test on abortion derived cells.

2. The code of life argument. Be careful that you don’t misstate science here. Don’t say things like “mRNA alters your DNA.” That’s not precise and isn’t what is happening. Instead, you might argue that mRNA manipulation and cellular manipulation on this level is something that belongs only to God and what God uses in nature. Man-made interference at this level is tantamount to playing God.

3. If you are a pre-tribulation Christian, you might argue from Revelation 13.

4. The Conscience/Faith argument.

5. The Kuyperian Sphere of Sovereignty argument.

Whatever you argue, needs to be YOUR deeply held religious beliefs. Don’t cut and paste what others have written.


6 posted on 11/17/2021 11:03:02 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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Wife used; born again believes in Living Bible. Quoted 1st Corinthians 6:19. Waiting


7 posted on 11/17/2021 11:13:41 AM PST by krug
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I got mine mostly with advice from here:

https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/religious-exemptions


8 posted on 11/17/2021 11:20:39 AM PST by Rio
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Measure 5 times, cut once. Once submitted you don’t get another bite on the apple. Beware of followup Q’s such a: Do u get your children vaccinated? If so, why?


9 posted on 11/17/2021 11:20:40 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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All “religious exemptions” should begin with the following question:

Please provide me your objective reasoning to be an authority that will determine any faith and belief system.
Then, please defend that with citations for the US Code.


10 posted on 11/17/2021 11:25:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (This is NOT a pandemic of the unvaxx'd. It is a complete loss of common sense.)
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Search for the last few Flubros threads as one of them from a few weeks ago discussed this…I did an extensive one detailing my experience with religious waivers…I think I know what I am talking about as a lawyer guided me through all the do’s and don’t’s


11 posted on 11/17/2021 11:37:20 AM PST by impimp ( )
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Flubros?


12 posted on 11/17/2021 11:43:47 AM PST by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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Helpful article getting into some nuance.

https://richmond.com/business/labor-law-your-employee-presents-a-letter-saying-she-is-exempt-from-the-covid-vaccine/article_811f9ea0-4170-5257-a661-8123649532c7.html

13 posted on 11/17/2021 11:44:37 AM PST by fruser1
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Some ideas: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-wednesday-october-68f

I was very uncomfortable answering some of the questions without an attorney present and stated I wouldn’t. Don’t know if that was a mistake, or not. Felt like they were looking for ammunition to use against me.

See US v Ballard and US v Seegar. Everyone has the right to be a quack and you can even believe in a false premise. You do not have to be believed, but you do have to be sincere in your beliefs.


14 posted on 11/17/2021 11:50:50 AM PST by zek157
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Check your FreepMail in about five minutes.


15 posted on 11/17/2021 12:10:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4006353/posts


16 posted on 11/17/2021 12:22:31 PM PST by impimp ( )
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4006353/posts

I found it by searching for Flubros in the title (not keyword)


17 posted on 11/17/2021 12:23:29 PM PST by impimp ( )
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My company (A large International Corporation) gave me religious accomadation with no testing mandate unless I have contact with other employees, customers or contractors based on this:
I am a Christian that believes in the teachings of the Bible and that it is the holy inspired word of God. I believe that all human life is sacred, in particular the unborn. Therefore, I am against using fetal cell lines for ethical and religious rea-sons. In particular, the Covid vaccines used fetal cell lines (HEK 293) in their development and testing. I am confident with my decision and have faith that God will protect me and my spouse without the use of these vaccines.
I also cited facts contained in these links:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2021/catholic-conscience-and-the-covid-19-vaccine
https://noahreport.com/pfizer-exec-runs-from-questions-about-pfizers-testing-on-aborted-baby-cells/
Also:
Luke 1:15
“He will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.”
Isaiah 49:1, 5
“The Lord called me from the womb… formed me from the womb to be his servant.”
Luke 1:41, 44
“ When Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. [And she exclaimed], ‘when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.’”


18 posted on 11/17/2021 12:25:23 PM PST by vortigern
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OSHA has suspended its forced vaccine mandate today. So that may help.


19 posted on 11/17/2021 12:48:07 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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"The Archangel Gabriel appeared to me last night and told me to reject the Jab. I have no idea why!"

Totally unfalsifiable, and hence air-tight!

Regards,

20 posted on 11/17/2021 12:49:56 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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