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How America can be saved
Free Republic ^ | Sept 23, 2021 | Nateman

Posted on 09/23/2021 5:43:26 AM PDT by Nateman

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To: Nateman

Perhaps you have forgot Congress has the same power to propose amendments. We have nothing left to lose.

Forgetting that the Dems control the US voting System, both Houses, and the Residency?

You have nothing left to lose because all was lost 45 years ago - you are trying to resurrect a rotting corpse.


41 posted on 09/23/2021 7:41:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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You keep repeating yourself as if that was all that was needed. The Socialists control 20 State Legislatures. Republicans control 30. The Socialists are in control of just about everything else. It is foolish not to take advantage of the one tool we have.


42 posted on 09/23/2021 7:42:23 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: Nateman

Any amendments coming out of an Article V convention needs to be ratified by 38 states. Good luck with that.


43 posted on 09/23/2021 7:47:39 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Nateman

The insurrectionalist politicians are certainly not timid. They’ve balls like church bells.


44 posted on 09/23/2021 7:52:43 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Nateman

I live in a green state. 👍🏻


45 posted on 09/23/2021 7:55:15 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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...The insurrectionalist politicians are certainly not timid

My theory is you can't become a Democrat politician unless you have some dirt that will land you in jail in Nanzi's bag of tricks. James Traficant and Rod Blagojevich are examples of the hammer coming down for going off the plantation. Democrats are truly the unamerican party of evil.

46 posted on 09/23/2021 7:58:25 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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...Good luck with that...

We will never know until we try.

47 posted on 09/23/2021 7:59:32 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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...Good luck with that...

Mega Dittos above sentiment - too bad the rest of us will have to pay for your stupidity.


48 posted on 09/23/2021 8:11:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Nateman

No document can save America. It will take a lot of blood in the streets, and Americans just aren’t there yet. Most won’t ever be willing to do what it takes. America is destined for the dust bin of history, likely within my lifetime (by ~2050).


49 posted on 09/23/2021 8:12:55 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: Nateman

Repeated until you lot wake the hell up


50 posted on 09/23/2021 8:26:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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...It will take a lot of blood in the streets...

Before we go all blood and guts thus giving the the FBI the excuse to wage even MORE war upon us why not try the peaceful choice first? You can always use bullet box later on if the COS does not work.

51 posted on 09/23/2021 8:27:48 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: Nateman

What amendments do you hope to come from the convention of states?


52 posted on 09/23/2021 8:40:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Click on my name.


53 posted on 09/23/2021 8:48:53 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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You forgot Minnesota, New Hampshire, Virginia and Wisconsin.


54 posted on 09/23/2021 8:56:13 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Nateman
Click on my name.

Like I said, good luck with that.

55 posted on 09/23/2021 10:21:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Nateman
Classic nattering nabobs of negativity with no better solutions than the one you've proposed. Reminds me of the dinosaurs pre-extinction: "Don't move or worry - it'll be warmer tomorrow when the sun comes back out."

You are quite right that our options are fast dwindling and time is running out to reverse the slide. Not only do we need MAGA-agenda people in office, they should also support a Convention. The Leftists fear that like they fear the election audits; therefore it should be done. We can MAKE the sun come out.

56 posted on 09/23/2021 10:47:54 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Fortunately despite aging I've been spared the ravages of maturity.)
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“...we have nothing left to lose...”

Oh, I think there’s still a helluva lot left to lose, and more of it’s getting lost every week we go without a CoS.

To my mind, The Point Of No Return is just after the first State actually secedes from the Union. It’d likely be one of the States that have already signed on to push for a CoS, so we’d be down by one. But that secession would either galvanize the remaining States to push CoS over the top and DO it, and maybe we recover and the departed State is readmitted; or it’ll start a chain reaction, and several other States will also secede — probably also States supporting a CoS, so that move will be crippled, such that there aren’t enough remainig States to initiate a CoS.

That’s the time as I read it on my watch.

It’s VERY LATE.

States that support a CoS need to publicly prepare to secede, and they need to say out loud to all the cameras and microphones, “By January 1st, 2022, there’s either going to be enough additional States join with us to hold a Constitutional Article V Convention of States, or we are — every one of us — leaving the Union on January 2nd. Either another 15 States figure out what time it is and join up with us to restore this Republic, or we’ll consider it dead, and go our way in peace.”

THAT — at the very least, the announcement of a certain make-or-break date for deciding — is really what’s needed, now.


57 posted on 09/23/2021 11:23:36 AM PDT by HKMk23 (LORD, HASTE THE DAY...!)
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This communist revolution started a long time ago. But nobody is quiet sure when exactly it began. Was it when the federal taxes began or FDR and The New Deal? Or was it after the last Civil War during reconstruction? Was during the Vietnam War, the House on Un-American Activities when they found communists in government and in media and Hollywood? Assassination of JFK? Vietnam War? 60s Cultural revolution? 9/11? Carter, Clinton, Obama or even the Johnson administrations? Could be any of those.


58 posted on 09/23/2021 11:32:32 AM PDT by Mozilla
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Thus in my opinion Trump was not the trigger at all. It was coming for decades.
Trump was another cog in the wheel. Sure The Bush’s were traitors. I never supported them. But, I recall when the left attacked them in the same way as Trump. So this wasn’t new.


59 posted on 09/23/2021 11:36:41 AM PDT by Mozilla
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Our Constitution is in real, mortal danger at this very moment. The enemy is ignoring the restrictions imposed by our founding document — have been since FDR and even before — and we need to take strong action to get back on track.

There are actually very few powers granted by the Constitution to the central government. Nowhere does the Constitution give Washington the power to impose vaccine mandates, or speed limits, or restrictions on the sale of 100-watt light bulbs, or … or … or … But you get the point. Using the word “free” to describe American life is getting difficult.

If strong medicine is indicated, and it surely is, then let’s roll up our sleeves. Certain Amendments would NEVER be approved by Congress but an Article V Convention could force the issue. Term Limits for all those bums now in office would a splendid start for an Article V Amendment.

Put in a no-nonsense chairman to avoid shenanigans and we could pass such an Amendment in no time. Then move on to the next Amendment.

(As friendly reminder, EVERY U.S. VETERAN swore an oath to “support and defend” the Constitution. Yes you did! And that oath carried no expiration date. The time has come to support and defend, y’all.)


60 posted on 09/23/2021 2:06:58 PM PDT by DNME (... at that awkward stage. Too late to work within the system; too early to shoot the bastards.)
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