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ECJ orders France to ban glue-trap hunting of songbirds outright
The Guardian ^ | Wed 17 Mar 2021 09.41 EDT | Last modified on Wed 17 Mar 2021 14.23 EDT | Kim Willisher

Posted on 03/17/2021 6:26:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai

European judges have ordered France to outlaw the hunting of songbirds using glue sticks, a practice described by campaigners as barbaric and a threat to endangered species.

French hunters argued the method was traditional and justified exemption from an EU ban introduced in 1979.

Until recently, the French government had successfully sought an opt-out that allowed glue hunting in five departments in south-east France on the grounds that it was “controlled, selective and in limited quantities”.

On Wednesday, the European court of justice ruled the practice was not selective and contravened EU rules. The ECJ called on France to ban glue-stick hunting of birds definitively. […]

Hunters using the method paint sticks called verguettes with glue and use caged songbirds to lure birds into the traps. Once the birds land on the sticks they are stuck; the more they struggle to escape, the more stuck they become. They are used as “callers” to attract other birds for shotgun hunters. …

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: eussr; fourthreich; france; gluetraps; songbirds; sparrowpie; sparrowpudding; verguettes; yuck
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1 posted on 03/17/2021 6:26:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That’s barbaric


2 posted on 03/17/2021 6:31:57 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: Olog-hai
Those separated from realilty want to outlaw all death and suffering.

Death and suffering are an intrinsic part of life.

Death inflicted by humans is a very small part of what goes on in nature, and is almost always far less cruel, involving far less suffering.

Those who live in a fantasy, made possible by the work of those who live in reality, are now calling for the end of reality for humans..

Life and death are intertwined. They cannot be separated.

3 posted on 03/17/2021 6:36:24 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Olog-hai

Can you still use them on flying cockroaches?


4 posted on 03/17/2021 6:43:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: marktwain

True, but but humans should not be indiscriminate killers of other species, especially endangered ones. For example in most jurisdictions of the United States there are strict limits on the number of animals one can hunt and in some cases minimum cartridge sizes to ensure a humane kill.


5 posted on 03/17/2021 6:43:49 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Not much meat on a songbird, but to the French who enjoy snails, they might be worth the trouble.

Robins used to be eaten here in the US especially in the south, though they probably taste like mud since they mostly eat earthworms and berries. Plump passenger pigeon squabs, not songbirds, filled many commercial markets here until their extinction.


6 posted on 03/17/2021 6:50:48 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

“That’s barbaric”
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True dat. If they REALLY want to save songbirds they should have a mass killing of all cats in France.


7 posted on 03/17/2021 6:53:14 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Olog-hai

Sparrow pie and sparrow pudding [we might need the recipe after the socialists eff the economy up:

https://www.haggardhawks.com/post/sparrow-pie


8 posted on 03/17/2021 6:54:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Olog-hai

I use glue pads to catch mice because it works. But I don’t call it hunting. LOL


9 posted on 03/17/2021 6:57:26 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds very barbaric and cruel to me.


10 posted on 03/17/2021 6:59:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Olog-hai

Found this on a chicken forum:

Greek recipes:

Salted Sparrow (What they did in the olden days to preserve them for winter treats)

To preserve them, you alternate layers of salt and sparrow (whole, but cleaned) in a preserving jar. When you want to eat them, you simply wash the salt off and fry them up in a little olive oil. This is best served with ouzo as a finger food.

Sparrow Pilaf in a Light Tomato Sauce

Boil the (cleaned) sparrows for about 20 minutes or until tender. In a separate saucepan sauté onions in oil. Add fresh tomatoes and just before it is ready, add fresh basil. Add the (drained) sparrows.

This is best served on rice that has been cooked in the sparrow water.

An Arab recipe:

How to make fried sparrows

Recipe ingredients

* 8 sparrows, cleaned or any game birds
* 1/2 teaspoon salt
* 1/4 cup lemon juice
* 1 tablespoon pomegranate thickened juice
* 1 tablespoon butter
* A dash of white pepper

* Fry sparrows in butter over medium heat till golden brown on all sides.
* Season and cook over low heat for 25 minutes, stirring occasionally.
* Add lemon juice and pomegranate juice and cook for another 10 minutes, stirring occasionally.
* Serve hot with fried mushrooms and potatoes.


11 posted on 03/17/2021 6:59:19 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Plump passenger pigeon squabs, not songbirds, filled many commercial markets here until their extinction.

Volumes spoken there. Market hunting led to the extinction.

12 posted on 03/17/2021 7:10:03 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: piasa

Chickens have a similar diet to robins, but don’t taste like mud.


13 posted on 03/17/2021 7:18:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: House Atreides

-—— If they REALLY want to save songbirds they should have a mass killing of all cats in France ————

HahahahahahHAHAHAhahah! That’s good :D


14 posted on 03/17/2021 7:43:22 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: piasa

-——Not much meat on a songbird, but to the French who enjoy snails, they might be worth the trouble -——

Oh! You’ve just reminded me of a practice they have in France of eating baby birds - bones, feathers, heads, beaks and all , and they drape large napkins or cloths over their heads to either hide their shame or catch the explosion ... let me go look it up .................................................................................................................

Here ‘tis ..... maybe this is why the bird hunters are hunting birds?

..... “There is a dish so aromatic, so indulgent, so cruel, that it is meant to be eaten with a towel draped over the diner’s head—both to keep in the smells and, perhaps, to hide one’s face from God.

Meet the ortolan bunting, a tiny songbird that summers across Western Europe and winters in Africa. It is considered a vulnerable species, especially in France, because the bird is trapped to be the centerpiece of a very particular rituel gastronomique. Netted ortolans are kept in dark cages, which tricks them into gorging themselves on grain and figs. (It’s said they also may be blinded to achieve the same effect.) Once the small birds have doubled or more in size, they are drowned—and simultaneously marinated—in Armagnac brandy. They’re then plucked and roasted, which doesn’t take long, since there is little meat on their bones.

Diners pick up one whole, hot bird by the head—with that towel covering the act—and place it feet-first into their mouths, saving only the beak. Advocates say that the crunch of bone, the hot fat, and the bursts of flavor from the organs makes for a delicacy with no equal.

There’s something about the indulgence of eating an ortolan bunting that seems monstrous. But it’s not so different from modern industrial livestock practices—not really. So what accounts for the reputation? Is it the act of consuming them all at once, of crunching through bone in a way that makes carnivory more visceral? Is it the self-awareness of covering the act with a towel? The tradition is said to originate with famed French epicure, lawyer, and writer Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin, who once said, “Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are.” Former French President Francois Mitterrand allegedly consumed not one but two ortolans as part of his notoriously gluttonous last meal.

Netting ortolans is illegal in some countries and not in others, but their trade is prohibited by the European Union, and France has banned the dish. That said, there are ways to experience this unique culinary tradition, if you know the right people. Ortolan bunting is an indulgent dish, but part of the allure likely comes from the transgression of consuming one of the world’s most indulgent, extravagant mouthfuls.

Need to Know
Due to European Union laws and concerns about the bird’s decreasing numbers, trying ortolan bunting is a quest of questionable morality. French chefs, however, are lobbying for the right to prepare ortolan bunting”

https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/ortolan-bunting-france#:~:text=There%20is%20a%20dish%20so,Europe%20and%20winters%20in%20Africa.


15 posted on 03/17/2021 7:48:45 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: Olog-hai

OMG, how awful. How could you subject such beautiful and useful creatures who bring joy to the world with their beautiful songs to such a horrible and stressful death? Put all the barbarians who have killed birds this way on large sheets of the same glue, and leave them to the same fate. The poor birds are terrified, stressed, and hunger/thirst to death. No one should have to die like that-—unless it’s the human filth who do that to G-d’s creatures. I can’t even stand to use glue traps for rodents. Better an instant kill one.


16 posted on 03/17/2021 8:51:30 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: gundog

Actually, chestnut trees provided food for passenger pigeons. When blight fungus wiped out the American chestnut passenger pigeons were collateral damage because their primary source of food was wiped out.


17 posted on 03/17/2021 9:39:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The FBI used to go after communists. Now it is run by communists. The American Stasi.)
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To: EinNYC

So how do you feel about birds killing and eating other birds?


18 posted on 03/17/2021 9:40:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The FBI used to go after communists. Now it is run by communists. The American Stasi.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Raptors eat other birds and small animals. I don’t like it, but that is what He intended.


19 posted on 03/17/2021 10:50:16 PM PDT by EinNYC (1`)
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To: EinNYC

Walt Disney sure did a number on you.

Arrested development at the infantile stage.


20 posted on 03/18/2021 5:58:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The FBI used to go after communists. Now it is run by communists. The American Stasi.)
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