Isn't that a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
Posted on 08/01/2020 7:47:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It was endorsed by NIH and referenced I. 313 other reviews
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
Yes
Hes a soros/rockefeller guy
Lol...true.
If this thing is killing people at warp speed, why would we wait for a freaking gold standard, randomized study? If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, something else can be tried. It is not given as a long term drug. How many million people would he like to see die or be permanently disabled before his gold standard testing is finished? And this bunk about a vaccine by the end of the year is crazy. Yes, Moderna has one that was tried on less than 100 people and has been determined to be safe in the short term. They are now starting another one, lasting TWO YEARS, with 30,000 people to determine the long term effects.
They do randomized placebo studies during a pandemic and let people die? Doesn’t sound right to me.
Fauci, although not associated with the study, can discern shortcomings in the study, he claims. But Fauci can’t discern if the protesters are spreading the virus.
and amazingly enough...
You drink that much water every day.
“The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine determined that an adequate daily fluid intake is: About 15.5 cups (3.7 liters) of fluids for men. About 11.5 cups (2.7 liters) of fluids a day for women.”
Isn't that a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
Same amount of Gin. Just dilute it down more.
And that was why I mentioned the Syrup.
I have just never seen them give a CONCENTRATION (probably prohibited from doing so by the corrupt FDA) !
With a backbone of quinine, culled from the Cinchona Tree, we’ve added a delicate mix of botanicals and then sweetened it with real cane sugar; the final product is a complex mixture that introduces a fine bitterness to any cocktail, and a great pairing with the botanicals of the finest Gins in the world.
17oz bottle “
When do Trump and Pence reel this pos in?
They don’t. They don’t want to be ridiculed that they took this idiots advice and thousands died. This is Trumps biggest flaw. He is a horrible judge of people. I wouldn’t have listened to ANYONE. who supported Hillary and has Bill Gates for a friend.
Now that being said, Trump could redeem himself and boost his popularity by out and out firing him just on his performance on the Hill and his lack of mask wearing at a baseball game. Come out and say he is not advancing the ball to help people, he is fired as is the head of the CDC for their incompetence and refusual to support using a drug that 3rd world countrys with little to no hygiene methods like the US has, and they have lower death rates due to Hydroxychloquine with zinc, and as such they will be the first round for treatment if the virus is found early. Any state refusing to do so will be quarentined and federal funding immediately stops until they comply.
Fauci has lost his fastball. Trump needs to take that 80 year old out of the game for someone who can defeat Covid-19.
Regarding Dr, Fauci claiming that hydroxychlorquine (HCQ) did not have a double blind randomized study, and is therefore useless, it seems he has promoted anti-viral Remdesivir (a failed Ebola drug from Gilead) on much scantier evidence. Also, now anti-HCQers (many who stand to benefit from expensive anti-virals) will be saying conclusively that HCQ has no benefit due to this new observational study, Hydroxychloroquine in Nonhospitalized Adults With Early COVID-19, https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-4207.
Why am I linking to the study? In the interest of saving lives if possible, everyone should be fully informed, and able to make the best choice for their family. I suggest evaluating the truth for yourself, and as always, discussing your health needs with your trusted physician.
Limitations, questionable elements and problems with this study include:
1. The abstract itself states that 50% (4 on HCQ versus 8 on placebo) less people on HCQ were hospitalized versus people on placebo. It kept people out of the hospital—why is that not a benefit? Let’s say that is not statistically significant, so it is discounted. If so, then the whole study is also questionable. The authors of the study admit: “The primary limitation of our trial is the lack of confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in all participants...” Also, it seems to be a very small study, with sketchy “self-reported” symptoms from participants, recruited over the internet—we do not know who really had or did not actually have Covid-19, as they enrolled patients who did not have a confirmed test but only “symptoms”. They justified this by claiming that testing is unavailable.
2. This was a study of younger patients, who are not most at risk of hospitalization or death. This is comparing apples and oranges, if you try and relate this to studies that show a positive benefit for HCQ, for patients who are much older and at risk.
3. Also, (like other negative HCQ studies) where is the zinc and antibiotic such as azithromycin, which HCQ protocols such as Zelenko’s recommendation (Download the free book here: https://files.internetprotocol.co/ebook-covid-19.pdf)?
4. Finally, (like other negative HCQ studies) the dosages seem high (possibly toxic), compared to what is recommended elsewhere in studies which showed positive results. The study dosages: “Hydroxychloroquine was prescribed at 800 mg (4 tablets) once, then 600 mg (3 tablets) 6 to 8 hours later, then 600 mg (3 tablets) once daily for 4 more days (5 days in total).” (Zelenko recommends Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for five days combined with Azithromycin 500mg once a day for five days and Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for five days.
But, who am I to say—I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. However, to me, the conclusion of this study, that says HCQ doesn’t reduce severity of symptoms of an unverified illness (vaguely resembling either a cold, influenza, or possibly even allergies), matters not one whit. Personally, I would prefer a genuinely unbiased study that shows what prevents Covid-19 (verified by testing) deaths. One wonders why this issue seems to be so politicized—could there be a profit motive? Certainly not for the decades old HCQ treatment, which I’m told costs about $20. If you’d like to read some of the “peer review” comments to the editor regarding this study, peruse the comments at the end of the link, above.
Also, if anyone is interested, I’ve been posting at my humble blog, http://eaglesnesthome.weebly.com/blog/a-reluctant-virus-post, with detailed information about Covid-19 treatments since the end of March. May God bless you, and your family. And may America bless God!
Yes, yes he did
Or you could vacuum distill the drink to concentrate it.
No big whoop.
I don’t need to do, or worry about getting quinine from tonic, as I have my own bottles of quinine, that I can add as much as I like to regular soda water.
Does Hydroxychloroquine alone, perform as a knockout drug --- attacking the virus in a manner much like, if not exactly the same as, treating a digestive tract parasitic infection with one of the quinine cousins --- about which a medical practioner's guideline can firmly be established?
Answer:
Of course, we have found that Hydroxychloroquine alone, does NOT perform as a knockout drug directly vs the SARS-2-CoV Coronavirus itself.
But we already knew that beforehand, because medical research has known the Hydroxychloroquine mechanisms at and within human cells, those being the battlefields where Hydroxychloroquine indirectly fights the replication purpose of the virus.
There is a distinction between TWO different attack vectors, and those are being confused by what studies "say" and seem to pursue (as reported by the leftist "news" media and Dr. Fauci):
HCQ directly vs a parasite, is the typical support for a guideline that doctors can practice.
HCQ indirectly vs a virus, is a grey area, sometimes murky, but in some cases, apparently worthwhile and doctors find encouraging enough to engage HCQ.
Our interest in Hydroxychloroquine plus Zinc is NOT as a directly offensive weapon against the virus, but as something that indirectly fights the virus at, and within, the human cell as a battlefield, thereby blunting SARS-2-CoV replication.
You have posted some excellent points and clarifications. Thank you. I also agree that the perception of HCQ legitimate use is that it is against a parasite, and anything would be murky. Just one thing to highlight, however, is that HCQ treatment is not just used to combat a parasite. It is also already approved and used for inflammatory conditions such as Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis, correct? I think this is important to note.
Tx, and yes; and I very poorly alluded to that ('twas in my thoughts but I failed to actually write about that re "indirect vector vs a virus") - given that I am uncertain about what virus might be involved re Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis. I do not know about research re Lupus, and barely a little (anecdotal), re Rheumatoid arthritis.
Be careful of the quinine intake. A friend got jacked up because he took it daily. But as soon as he quit taking it, all systems were restored. IIRC it was his bone marrow.
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