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Why You Have a Constitutional Right to a High Capacity Magazine
American Greatness ^ | July 2, 2020 | Adam Mill

Posted on 07/03/2020 9:29:48 AM PDT by upchuck

With no police or security within sight, Mark and Patricia McCloskey stood with their backs to their house wielding a small pistol and an AR-15. The “peaceful protest” featured a screaming scrum of hundreds smashing down the gate to a privately-owned neighborhood as they poured onto the privately-owned street just a few feet from the McCloskey residence. Considering the many buildings the mobs in recent weeks have burned, the victims they have assaulted, and the neighborhoods they have destroyed, the McCloskeys determined to remain physically safe, if terrorized. The mob screamed at and taunted the McCloskeys. But it dared not assault the armed homeowners.

Less than 1,000 miles to the west, at almost the precise moment, the Colorado Supreme Court upheld a Colorado law banning the very magazine Mr. McCloskey used to load the weapon with which he defended his home from the mob. Seldom has history presented such a dramatic split screen.

Even as the very scenario that demonstrates the need for high-capacity magazines unfolded in St. Louis, the Colorado Supreme Court endorsed the view that, “the fifteen-round limit was not only based on a valid, reasonable, safety concern, but is reasonable and does not impose on the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms for self-defense or defense of home or property.”

Earlier that month, only a few short miles from the Colorado Supreme Court, shopkeepers watched helplessly as vandals and looters rampaged through their downtown area. How do mobs honor the memory of George Floyd by looting $25,000 in merchandise from a small business? George who? No such high-minded principle guides these mobs.

We’ve been told we don’t need “weapons of war,” to protect ourselves because the police will do that job. Let’s be honest: against such forces the police can’t even protect themselves. Not since the post-Civil War reconstruction era have mobs conquered not one, but two police installations in major metropolitan areas. We don’t have to hypothesize about a potential breakdown in civil order. We have one. When the mobs have the political winds at their backs, the police are easily overwhelmed.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 2a; ar15; banglist; civilunrest; highcapacitymags; rkba; selfprotection
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When looking at firearms, cartridge capacity has always been important to me.
1 posted on 07/03/2020 9:29:48 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

The only thing you can count on police for is to outline your body with chalk.
Protecting yourself and your family is your responsibility.


2 posted on 07/03/2020 9:34:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: upchuck
high standard capacity magazines
3 posted on 07/03/2020 9:34:42 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you believe masks work, you also believe Santa Claus ate the Easter Bunny for dinner.)
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To: real saxophonist

Exactly....
and PLURAL, not a single magazine...magazineS

and a least six (6) LOADED MAGAZINES, readily accessible.


4 posted on 07/03/2020 9:40:13 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: upchuck
I think AR high cap mags are bad.

Anything over 30 is unreliable. Spring pressure, even with snail drums, is excessive. The middle of a fire fight is no time to discover you have a double feed or a pipe stem jam.

5 posted on 07/03/2020 9:42:43 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: upchuck
The 2nd amendment is specifically about military weapons. That includes ammunition capacity and more importantly full automatic weapons.

We the people are guaranteed the right to possess machine guns as those are the weapons that will be used against us.

Just as the first amendment protects all forms of speech it it primarily aimed at protection of POLITICAL speech. The second amendment protects firearms and other arms for hunting and sport but it's primary purpose is protecting rights of arms for war and today that means machine guns.

Ironically the federal government outside of the military has no such rights or power. We the people are guaranteed the right to own a full automatic M4 carbine, an FBI or BATFE agent is not.

6 posted on 07/03/2020 9:43:24 AM PDT by precisionshootist (ui)
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To: upchuck
1ST - Define "High Capacity".

2ND - The STANDARD capacity magazine that comes with the weapon...IS NOT "High Capacity"!!!

7 posted on 07/03/2020 9:51:47 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: precisionshootist

Absolutely correct and I am not CURRENTLY a gun owner. At the time of the ratification many Americans possessed weapons of equal and superior performance to ones issued to the Army or militias. Private artillery was common, whether in private frontier forts like Fort Bridger, on merchant vessels, or swivel guns on river flat boats. In the post Civil War West it was a common occurrence that trail drive drovers were better armed than a platoon of Cavalry. Around 1908, when the Army was issuing 5 shot ‘03s you could buy a Remington Model 8 or a Winchester 1907, both semi auto medium caliber rifle. Both purchased by the French Army in WW1.


8 posted on 07/03/2020 9:54:33 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: upchuck

The problem with magazine capacity limits is this: the gun banners will never be satisfied. If there is a school shooting and the shooter uses 20 round magazines, they will want to reduce the capacity to 15. After the next shooting, they will want to reduce it to 10. Wash, rinse, repeat.


9 posted on 07/03/2020 9:56:15 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A Man Hears What He Wants to Hear and Disregards the Rest)
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To: jonascord

Agreed, I myself have 30 rd mags, but many more 20 round mags. Reason: I load them differently, for different threats, 20’s easier to quickly switch out. One with high quality precision ammo, another with green tip, one with tracer ( you need tracers to identify to your group where a sniper maybe hiding or where to direct your groups fire), a few with ball, but most with hunting, soft point lead ( much much more lethal than ball).


10 posted on 07/03/2020 10:00:17 AM PDT by delta7
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To: upchuck
The “peaceful protest” featured a screaming scrum of hundreds smashing down the gate to a privately-owned neighborhood as they poured onto the privately-owned street just a few feet from the McCloskey residence.

Speaking of the wealthy elite and "privately-owned neighborhoods," does anybody remember this story about an Asian couple who bought a private street in the richest part of San Francisco at a tax delinquency auction after the neighborhood HOA failed to pay its property tax for 30 years?

The couple kept hidden for two years the fact that they now owned the street. Once the neighborhood residents found out that they were going to be charged for parking on the street, they sued to get the street back.

The elite locals eventually won their lawsuit and took back the property that the Asian couple legally owned for two years. That's how the elite wealthy roll in San Francisco. The laws are malleable if you're connected.

-PJ

11 posted on 07/03/2020 10:01:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

It’s the Golden Rule - ‘He who owns the Gold, makes the Rules’


12 posted on 07/03/2020 10:03:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: upchuck

For those with long memories, the first California draft of an AW ban also included lever action tube fed rifles.

Neal Knox spilled the beans on this and that part of the bill was removed. The bill as the shelved.
Then the state released Pat Purdy from a mental institution, allowed him to buy firearms, passing the waiting periods.
He then proceeded to shoot up the Stockton school, and then shot himself.

The shelved bill was pulled out and passed so fast no one had time to oppose it.

Sad that this was the same state that in 1992 turned down Prop 15 to register and ban handguns in the state.

Now the anti-gun virus has exploded the cell wall called Kali-phornia and is spreading to other states.


13 posted on 07/03/2020 10:04:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The bill as the shelved.

The bill was then shelved.(note to self....PROOFREAD!)


14 posted on 07/03/2020 10:05:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: delta7

...but of course, my favorite is a Garand for defeating light armor, vehicles and 1” plate steel ( they tend to take away any cover the bad guy may be behind, cars, trees, railroad ties, sandbags, brick walls, ballistic vests, etc..)...surplus .30 cal M2 AP, API, Incendiary is out there, pricey, but it can be found. GB has some occasionally, now running about $2 a round.


15 posted on 07/03/2020 10:07:51 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
I tried 55gr when I first got my 1:9 20 inch barrel. The groups were barely closer than random. 62gr Tula was even worse.

Seems to like 73gr Match. Not the penetration, but more stable and a tighter group out to 300. They tend to come apart in soft targets, and that isn't a bad thing...

Like Antifa, I'm out to hurt.

16 posted on 07/03/2020 10:09:28 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: upchuck

People need to be reminded of April 19, 1775 when our forefathers kick redcoat ass for coming for their weapons. We should do the same now.


17 posted on 07/03/2020 10:12:32 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: real saxophonist

Thank you...this is the correct answer. Hicap mags are a liberal illusion meant to propagandize the discussion.


18 posted on 07/03/2020 10:38:57 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: jonascord
‘I think AR high cap mags are bad. Anything over 30 is unreliable.”

I see what you did there. ;-)

20 posted on 07/03/2020 11:51:32 AM PDT by circlecity
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