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Pakistan Jet Crashed Shortly After Bizarre Landing Attempt At 327 KPH
NDTV ^ | 28 May 2020 | Alan Levin

Posted on 05/28/2020 2:00:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

At no point did the pilots say they had a problem with their landing gear or any other type of emergency, according to the radio calls.

A deadly plane crash in Pakistan is prompting questions about how the crew could touch down without landing gear when their sophisticated jetliner was bristling with equipment to prevent pilots from doing just that

"It is unbelievable to me that an airline crew on a jet like an Airbus, with all the warning systems, would attempt to land the plane without the gear extended," said John Cox, an aviation safety consultant who formerly flew the A320 as a U.S. airline pilot.

It's not yet clear why the two jet engines quit after functioning well enough for about two minutes to lift them about 3,000 feet (915 meters) above the runway. Engines have become so reliable that losing two at the same time is almost always because of some common factor, such as damage from hitting a runway or a problem with the fuel supply.

"We are comfortable. We can make it," the pilot can be heard telling the controller, according to a recording of Karachi's air-traffic radio posted on the LiveATC.net website.

"Sir, we have lost engines," a pilot said. Then, 30 seconds later, he said, "Mayday. Mayday. Mayday."

(Excerpt) Read more at ndtv.com ...


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KEYWORDS: a320; airbus; airbusa320; aviation; crash; karachi; modelcolony; pakistan; pk8303; ringers; vietnam
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Nothing but questions????
1 posted on 05/28/2020 2:00:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

327 KPH? Wouldn’t that make it impossible to stop the plane anyway even if the wheels WERE down?


2 posted on 05/28/2020 2:03:57 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Wow — belly scrape of the runway?

Supposed to be impossible.

Guess not.


3 posted on 05/28/2020 2:05:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Don’t mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Bad altitude readings?


4 posted on 05/28/2020 2:06:29 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Bullish

How many FPS would I need in order to simulate that in flightsim ?


5 posted on 05/28/2020 2:07:09 PM PDT by algore
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To: DUMBGRUNT

From another site:

Pakistan’s Minister for Civil Aviation Ghulam Sarwar Khan told reporters on Thursday the plane’s engines touched the ground three times on the first attempt at landing.

“The pilot never announced his landing gear wasn’t opening. He haphazardly touched the engines thrice with the ground,” Khan said.

“All marks are present [on the runway]. He was not at the proper height ... Control tower informed him you aren’t at the required height, lower your altitude,” he said, adding that the pilot replied, “I will manage.”

According to communications posted on liveatc.net, an aviation radio monitoring website, the pilot told the controllers “we are comfortable now” during the approach, but the reason for the remark has left most experts puzzled.

Shortly after the engines scraped along the runway in the aborted first landing attempt, the pilot reported problems in maintaining altitude, then said both engines had failed.

Investigators are expected to examine whether the engines shut down because of their collision with the runway, following what appeared to be a steeper and faster approach than normal.

The lower part of the engine housing contains key components including an accessory gearbox and hydraulic pumps.

“All sorts of things can happen to an engine if you bounce it down the runway,” a person familiar with its design said.


6 posted on 05/28/2020 2:07:15 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s 203 mph. Normally, a passenger jet aircraft such as this one (A320) lands at about 140 knots (161 mph).


7 posted on 05/28/2020 2:07:27 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If you are without power any turn you make is going to cost
you altitude or speed.

Lots of pilots have been killed trying to return to the
field.


8 posted on 05/28/2020 2:07:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Apparently a distraction in the cockpit;they missed the gear up buzzer alarm


9 posted on 05/28/2020 2:08:40 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect??)
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when their sophisticated jetliner was bristling with equipment to prevent pilots from doing just that

Maybe he pressed #2 for Spanish.

10 posted on 05/28/2020 2:11:36 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: DUMBGRUNT

On this video, it appears the gear is down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQrb85Sug9k


11 posted on 05/28/2020 2:12:54 PM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They pakis. Pakis be dumb. Idiots


12 posted on 05/28/2020 2:13:51 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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the engines scraped along the runway in the aborted first landing attempt, the pilot reported problems in maintaining altitude, then said both engines had failed.

Dragging a jet engine along the ground at 200mph will not do it any good....just sayin'

13 posted on 05/28/2020 2:15:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: algore

I’m just a banker, but I calculated 552 FPS


14 posted on 05/28/2020 2:16:54 PM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

As we found out 9/11/2001, muzzie pilots are not good at landings.


15 posted on 05/28/2020 2:18:34 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe the pilots were on their prayer rugs?


16 posted on 05/28/2020 2:19:46 PM PDT by oil_dude
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To: adamjeeps

Did a few touch and goes with the gear up and then put the gear down just in time to land on the buildings.

Paki Pilot Follies.


17 posted on 05/28/2020 2:22:48 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

IFF

In Flight Fight


18 posted on 05/28/2020 2:22:54 PM PDT by TexasTransplant ( I am going back to work... permission or not)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe they were rocking out to all the bells, whistles and buzzers going off in the plane, they probably thought it was some new age music.


19 posted on 05/28/2020 2:26:23 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Sudden jihad syndrome?


20 posted on 05/28/2020 2:27:02 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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