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Pakistan Jet Crashed Shortly After Bizarre Landing Attempt At 327 KPH
NDTV ^ | 28 May 2020 | Alan Levin

Posted on 05/28/2020 2:00:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: TexasTransplant

In Flight Fight

Kind of feels like that???

More at the link in #22


41 posted on 05/28/2020 3:20:20 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Arones

BFL

Bravo - Foxtrot - Lima ???

Can you give me a clue?


42 posted on 05/28/2020 3:26:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: CdMGuy

a youtube.com blog that goes by the name Blancolirio...

Yes noted with link in #22.


43 posted on 05/28/2020 3:29:40 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Bullish

what software do you use for flight sim? I love that, and I want to get something since I am semi-retired now.


44 posted on 05/28/2020 3:32:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I saw this bizarre story on TheFlightChannel on YouTube. The guy who runs it uses Microsoft Flight Simulator to re-create accidents and incidents from around the world. He got the story about the PIA crash out in 4 days.

After watching it, I cannot imagine what the ever-loving hell the pilots were thinking. It makes no sense whatsoever.


45 posted on 05/28/2020 3:36:22 PM PDT by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: adamjeeps

Yes. That certainly looks like wheels down. It also looks a bit steep.


46 posted on 05/28/2020 3:37:39 PM PDT by arthurus (us covfefe v)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUOn6FrDPwg


47 posted on 05/28/2020 3:40:42 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Stop looking for 'magic' numbers!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Bump for later.

Just marking so I can come back when I have time to read.


48 posted on 05/28/2020 3:50:15 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: adamjeeps

The gear was down prior to impact.


49 posted on 05/28/2020 3:50:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: hoagy62

Yeah, I watch that channel as well, saw his video on it yesterday.


50 posted on 05/28/2020 3:56:40 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: Arones

Bump for later.

Thank you.


51 posted on 05/28/2020 4:08:21 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Mr. K

I’ve always used MS flight simulator all versions since the very first one for the commodore 64.

I currently use the latest version which is MSFS=X for the PC,


52 posted on 05/28/2020 4:25:53 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: Signalman
That’s 203 mph. Normally, a passenger jet aircraft such as this one (A320) lands at about 140 knots (161 mph).

No one in the aviation world uses KPH as a measurement of speed.

It's either MPH or Knots.

KPH is being used here to sensationalize the headline. Naturally.

53 posted on 05/28/2020 4:44:14 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: pa_dweller

A simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUOn6FrDPwg
That was interesting.


54 posted on 05/28/2020 4:54:30 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Bullish
"327 KPH?"

Yup - "Ludicrous speed"

55 posted on 05/28/2020 4:56:01 PM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Psalm 73

Even the SR-71 doesn’t land that fast, nor the space shuttle.


56 posted on 05/28/2020 4:56:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

You only need to land that fast at Macho Grande airport.


57 posted on 05/28/2020 4:57:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bunkerhill7

“they missed the gear up buzzer alarm.”

And apparently missed it on the check list.

Additionally, there are “tips” like green and red dot markers on the PFD Airspeed Scale that are there to warn the pilots on speed problems. He never should have tried to land the aircraft, it was way too hot.

A good article on this is here:

https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/control-your-speed-during-descent-approach-and-landing/

rwood


58 posted on 05/28/2020 5:03:34 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Psalm 73

If they were really going 327kph and they only had one shot at the runway due to dead stick landing, (no engines) then I guess that could explain why they didn’t deploy landing gear. To try to make a skid landing I guess. Still, I wouldn’t even think of trying to simulate that landing at 327 knots.


59 posted on 05/28/2020 5:29:42 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; SkyDancer
At about 2:34 p.m., the plane slammed onto the runway. Its engines left a series of black smudge marks, starting at 4,500 feet

This defies logic. They came in high hot and heavy, used up almost half the runway before impacting with no landing gear down, skidded down the runway and then became airborne again before the turbines, failed due to damage. Ever bell and whistle should have been going off in the cockpit on the original approach. Hell, even my simple glider will not let me land without the gear down. If I deploy air brakes without the gear down I get a buzzer sounding off.

I am confused.

ps
When I worked in the Middle East Oil Fields but not in Pakistan my friends that did always said, do not fly PIA. That was back in the late 70s.

60 posted on 05/28/2020 8:19:47 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR)
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