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Why are Governments Trying To Stop Corona virus?
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Posted on 03/01/2020 11:02:59 AM PST by DouglasKC

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To: DouglasKC

Nicely done.

Those 1.8 million who need to be hospitalized so they don’t die won’t be able to use the 924 107 hospital beds, because they will need ICU beds, which surveys consistently show are about 15% of all hospital beds, or about 138 000 total ICU beds.

However. Some of these are CCU beds, or post-surgery beds.

Also, not all of them are equipped to provide airborne isolation. In my hospital, 2/40 ICU beds are so equipped, and based on my experience, this ratio is normal.

Never mind the staffing issue. Patients will need 1:1, no rotation of staff, one slip and the nurse or tech goes into quarantine x 14 days.

IF we try to maintain the standard of care for one or two patients with even 1000 patients, the system will crash.

THAT’S why this is such a big issue.


61 posted on 03/01/2020 12:00:05 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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62 posted on 03/01/2020 12:00:09 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: exDemMom
Your estimates are off for this reason: No one has any preexisting immunity to this virus. The influenza or the common cold-causing strains of corona virus circulate in a population that is mostly immune. In a naive population, there could be hundreds of millions of cases.

I know they are. I was purposely using very low numbers and a best case scenario in order to show why governments are worried. The actual numbers are what really frightens them.

63 posted on 03/01/2020 12:01:43 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Do you? No? Then why are you demanding they do? Politicians are following your lead.

Seems like a circular reference. “I am cuz they are and they is cuz I am.”


64 posted on 03/01/2020 12:04:13 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Jim Noble
THAT’S why this is such a big issue.

Exactly..i didn't even touch upon those factors you mentioned and of those 968,000 beds only 40% or so are actually available at any one time...at least in 2012 where i got the stat from.

65 posted on 03/01/2020 12:04:18 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Mount Athos
In 2002 a southern China coronavirus mutated by the time it got to Canada. It became a lot more lethal but also a lot less transmittable, so it quickly petered out.

But what if the mutation increased transmission instead of decreased.

In general, the more transmissible a virus is, the less deadly it is. Covid-19 is one of those that occupies a sweet spot: it has a low enough mortality rate to be highly transmissible, but high enough mortality to cause millions of deaths in a susceptible population.

66 posted on 03/01/2020 12:04:51 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Freedom56v2

“Come back here in 2 weeks after results in and prove all the “dramabugs” wrong.”

It’s not on me to prove you wrong. You made the assertion the virus will be devastating. We’ll come back in 6 months and have a good laugh.


67 posted on 03/01/2020 12:05:21 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad
Do you? No? Then why are you demanding they do? Politicians are following your lead.

No they're not. Even before it was a blip on the radar of the public China was already into draconian measures to contain it. Even before it was a blip on the radar of the general public President Trump was banning flights and quarantining. And even in countries where they don't give a darn about their people they are taking at the exact same steps. ALL countries and all leaders are reacting the same way.

68 posted on 03/01/2020 12:07:25 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Jim W N

Crisis and government in love.


69 posted on 03/01/2020 12:07:33 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: DouglasKC

“1 death in the US so far.”

“Do you have an alternate reason why every government on the face of the earth including the United States government is taking this very seriously?”

Good question, but I expect you won’t get an answer.
Also, the there’s just been x deaths argument isn’t a very convincing one as it could just as easily been claimed when in Wuhan when this thing just started.
Just 10 days ago, there were only 3 confirmed cases in Italy. Today, there are 1,694 confirmed cases. Figure that rate of growth in percent. Yiii.


70 posted on 03/01/2020 12:10:45 PM PST by LouieFisk
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"I think that's just what they did. They decided NOT to treat the 20% and just see who lived and died...that's why the "hospitals" they are building look more like warehouses for the sick."

You got that right! They sure do know how to "fast track" a massive 2-floor "hospital complex:


71 posted on 03/01/2020 1:12:21 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: CodeToad

No I did not say that...Geez don’t put words in mouth...

You are a denigrater. You used word dramabug...

I said come back and prove dramabugs wrong...

Since they are not testing, I think there will be a lot more cases in 2 weeks. PERIOD...


72 posted on 03/01/2020 1:50:04 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: DouglasKC

It will be lower than that. The only hospitalizations would be those who are in critical condition


73 posted on 03/01/2020 2:39:59 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s a communist country known for lying

The only thing I know for sure is right now we don’t know


74 posted on 03/01/2020 2:41:01 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Magic Fingers

What I said is what I meant. I trust zero numbers out of China and Iran

Right now we don’t have enough data from the others


75 posted on 03/01/2020 2:42:16 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ponyexpress9790

IF that is what happens


76 posted on 03/01/2020 2:42:46 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: DouglasKC

A dear mongering post full of inaccuracies is more like it. Your statistical analysis is way off, and offers compounding error as you proceed through it.


77 posted on 03/01/2020 2:51:02 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: DouglasKC

Less worried about the government because Trump.
I’m worried about the people, we have an abundance of stupid people...
all desired by God, but stupid.
People need to take it seriously and they need to NOT panic either.


78 posted on 03/01/2020 2:55:48 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Jim Noble

As a hospital based intensivist, I assure you this is completely inaccurate.


79 posted on 03/01/2020 2:55:53 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Nifster

What you said is “No the death rate isn’t high compared to the flu”. What country’s reported death rate are you basing that comparison on?


80 posted on 03/01/2020 2:56:57 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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