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Replace PG&E by municipal owned decentralized power utilities. If the system is decentralized and "green" what happens if the wind stops blowing or the sun is not shining in your area?
1 posted on 10/16/2019 6:54:15 AM PDT by C19fan
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They are complaining that they only got 24 hours advance notice?

What a bunch of idiots, who knew much more in advance that the wind was going to be blowing so hard they had to turn the electricity off?


2 posted on 10/16/2019 6:57:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Too bad that the average American does not realize that if the Democrats seize power, the era of reliable, relatively cheap electricity will be over. Without reliable, cheap electricity, an economy withers.


3 posted on 10/16/2019 7:01:08 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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Earlier this month, nearly 2 million Californians were hurt by a “planned” power shutoff by Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E), a private utility company


Private utility company heavily regulated by the state.

The state created the situation and then passed the buck to someone else.


4 posted on 10/16/2019 7:01:34 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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PG&E should sue the Sierra Club and other enviro-whackos who have made it costly and impossible to clear trees and brush under their power lines.


9 posted on 10/16/2019 7:14:12 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Talk of buying out Portions of PGE is BS.

PGE paid our county’s water district millions to give us one of one of their power generating facilities (hydro project 184)

No one would buy their transmission facilities they are in such bad shape.


12 posted on 10/16/2019 7:23:31 AM PDT by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. IOr keep people from / PC ing in ver and alway)
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What Dept. of Energy? Pull the plug on their paychecks/jobs.


13 posted on 10/16/2019 7:23:32 AM PDT by PGalt
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The Nation

Might as well say “The Socialist Rag”.


14 posted on 10/16/2019 7:43:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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re: “If the system is decentralized and “green” what happens if the wind stops blowing”

OF course, this rag, “The Nation” doesn’t have (or hire) any engineers to be “on staff”, so, they really REALLY don’t know ...


16 posted on 10/16/2019 7:45:54 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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The Nation

Might as well say “The Socialist Rag”.

Minus the $2.8 billion extra that PG&E has paid buying, in accordance with legal mandates, “renewable power” fulfilling state set quotas, while cheaper electricity is/was available on the open wholesale market from the grid, they could have afforded the infrastructure maintenance and improvements that would have improved their position vis-a-vis wild fires.


18 posted on 10/16/2019 7:47:20 AM PDT by Wuli
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“PG&E has been the region’s main electricity provider since 1852...”

1852?

Right.


20 posted on 10/16/2019 7:51:17 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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What Leftist Fascists? THIS IS YOUR UTOPIA. This is what all your panic stricken posturing about “Carbon Footprints” results in. You should be ecstatic you all have finally reached the nirvana you been agitating for the last 50 years.


25 posted on 10/16/2019 8:17:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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One thing about the PG&E vs State of Calfornia over the wild fires their power lines are supposedly causing is whether or not the state is forbidding them to clear trees and brush from under power lines. I’ve see statements as that is the cause but have also seen statements that the trees and underbrush are not cleared because PG&E is lazy and/or not willing to spend the money as a preventive measure. Does anyone know which it is or perhaps a combination of both? Thanks.


26 posted on 10/16/2019 8:23:16 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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If California takes control of PG&E then California’s energy system will soon enough be the envy of Puerto Rico.


27 posted on 10/16/2019 8:28:04 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Fake news obscuring the California wacko government that is actually responsible.


30 posted on 10/16/2019 8:40:47 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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After driving the stock to historic lows in a rigged system, they have only the bond holders to worry about.

And the federal bankruptcy judge.

CA could easily purchase the outstanding stock.


31 posted on 10/16/2019 8:55:54 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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So last year, the power was on, some lines blew down and created fires, and PG&E were sued for BILLIONS of dollars of damage.

This year, before a huge windstorm, PG&E shuts down the lines so as not to cause fires, and now they are being sued for BILLIONS for shutting off the power.

I guess if they declared bankruptcy tomorrow, and turned off the power, they’d get sued for BILLIONS of dollars for not keeping their company operating.


33 posted on 10/16/2019 9:27:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Replace PG&E by municipal owned decentralized power utilities. If the system is decentralized and “green” what happens if the wind stops blowing or the sun is not shining in your area?””’

I find this ironic.

Replace P G & E with WINDMILLS.

WINDMILLS will still need transmission towers & lines to homes & businesses.

When th3e WIND is high, the windmills will be spinning-—but even they will have to shut off the transfer of power due to fire danger.

NO ONE is thinking this thru very far.


34 posted on 10/16/2019 9:53:48 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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