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Want to live on the Moon? Try living under a Swiss glacier first.
fox ^ | 06/28/2019 | Megan Gannon | Space.com

Posted on 06/29/2019 11:01:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin

European researchers and students are conducting a mock moon habitat trial under a glacier near the famous Matterhorn in Switzerland's Alps.

Called IGLUNA, the demonstration is organized by the Swiss Space Center and the European Space Agency. Teams from across Europe arrived in the car-free mountain town of Zermatt, Switzerland, last week to set up their experiments, which include an ice-digging robot, a construction robot, an algae bioreactor and a hydroponic system for growing veggies. They've also built a habitat 8.5 feet (2.6 meters) tall buried deep in the ice.

Zurbrügg, who is leading the habitat-construction team, said that his group's original idea was to have one of the other teams use its ice-cutting robot to slice bricks from the glacier and assemble the mock habitat, but the plan turned out to be too complicated to realize for various reasons. For instance, the ice in the glacier isn't pure but mixed with stone and sand, which would cause difficulties for the robotic saw, he said. Instead, Zurbrügg's team manually assembled bricks made from fiberglass and wood.

Some of the other IGLUNA experiments are taking place inside that arched building. For example, Tatiana Volkova, an engineer of habitats in extreme environments and a doctoral student at EPFL, is looking at how people behave in confined conditions. Cameras inside the small building will record everyone who goes inside. Later, using an algorithm to track the movements of researchers and visitors, Volkova will analyze how people tend to move around each other inside the habitat.

"It can help to identify potential errors of design," Volkova told Space.com, adding that once the methodology has been tested, it could be used to study human behavior in more intense habitat simulations, where one set of participants stays in the mock habitat for a long period.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: astronomy; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; greencheese; moon; science; spacex; swisscheese; tatianavolkova; themoon
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1 posted on 06/29/2019 11:01:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Biosphere #3, the cool one!


2 posted on 06/29/2019 11:11:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I think they have a big long extension cord leading to the nearest coal burning powerplant.


3 posted on 06/29/2019 11:14:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: BenLurkin

Mock is the operative word - go live in the tropics and pretend is like living on Venus etc - liberal non-think


4 posted on 06/29/2019 11:17:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BenLurkin
and a hydroponic system for growing veggies

I hope they also have a hydroponic system for growing hay and alfalfa and grain to feed the livestock for milk and cheese, if not eggs, chicken and beef, for protein. Or are they going to simulate flying frozen steaks to the moon.

5 posted on 06/29/2019 11:30:57 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BenLurkin
so they are going to destroy a glacier from the inside out now
6 posted on 06/29/2019 11:40:24 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: All

Sound like a buncha crackpots to me.


7 posted on 06/29/2019 12:14:27 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: BenLurkin

I love Switzerland. Where they have to come up with super creative ideas just to have any problems. Grüezi wohl! Hop! Hop! Schwiiiz!


8 posted on 06/29/2019 12:18:15 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Liz

Sound like a buncha crackpots


Psycho-ceramics?


9 posted on 06/29/2019 12:18:24 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; Gamecock; SaveFerris
Another one:

Vivian: Oh, isn't Elaine fantastic?

George: Yes she is. It's a pity we won't be seeing much more of her.

Vivian: Really, why?

George: Oh, you haven't heard, she's going to live with her grandparents in Redding Pennsylvania.

Vivian: Her grandparent passed away five years ago.

George: Yes they did. I was covering. Elaine has been deported back to Scotland.

Vivian: She's American citizen, I have seen her passport.

George: All right, no more lies. Elaine is been chosen to represent the Upper West Side in the next Biosphere project.

Vivian: I haven't heard anything about another Biosphere.

George: That's because it's underwater.

Vivian: This is insane.

George: Is it?

Vivian: Yes it it.

George: Well, it's all for charity, so what's the difference.

(Now, enough of that. Let's see that pastrami).


10 posted on 06/29/2019 12:22:16 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: DUMBGRUNT

[Biosphere #3, the cool one!]

That’s cold, man. Ice cold.


11 posted on 06/29/2019 12:23:12 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Larry Lucido

Too bad about her, too.


12 posted on 06/29/2019 12:23:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Indeed.


13 posted on 06/29/2019 12:23:58 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Kramer had a can of Beefaroni for biosphere 3! Or maybe a can of tuna.

Don’t feed the Beefaroni to the horse, though.


14 posted on 06/29/2019 12:24:29 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Larry Lucido

Just remembered her name - been awhile

Kelly Waymire


15 posted on 06/29/2019 12:25:05 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: BenLurkin

haven’t they done similar experiments already, with people in confined places for extended periods?

Don’t we already have some real world examples of life in such conditions, such as researchers who winter over in Antarctica and are confined there?


16 posted on 06/29/2019 12:33:41 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: BenLurkin

Ausgezeichnet.


17 posted on 06/29/2019 1:44:17 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: BenLurkin

Giant steps are what you’ll take...


18 posted on 06/29/2019 4:21:18 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: PIF

Antarctica would actually be a fair trial. You’re weeks away from logistical support, bitterly cold, but you can breathe in an emergency. You’d need to be in good health to go.

The Likely Health Checklist for Going to Mars
https://libertyislandmag.com/2019/05/17/the-likely-health-checklist-for-going-to-mars/


19 posted on 06/29/2019 7:28:27 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: BenLurkin

But what happens when Global Warming melts the glacier.


20 posted on 06/29/2019 7:59:47 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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