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Apple FaceTime bug lets you listen in on people you call, even if they haven't picked up...iPhone
cnbc ^ | 01/28/2019 | Todd Haselton

Posted on 01/29/2019 5:15:38 AM PST by BenLurkin

CNBC tested it and verified that it's a real bug. I tried placing a video call to my editor from my iPhone using Apple's FaceTime app. Then, before he picked up, I used the menu option to add somebody else to the call and, as 9to5Mac's directions state, I added myself to the call. Suddenly, I could hear my editor, even though he never picked up. We continued having a conversation while his phone only gave him the option to answer. There was no indication that the call had already gone through.

The Verge reports that, if the person you're calling tries to end it by tapping the power button on their phone, it sends video but no audio. That means the person calling you can see a video of you or your surroundings as if you'd answered the call. I replicated this with a friend.

This bug seems to rely on the FaceTime Group Call feature, since you're trying to add another person to the call. Group FaceTime launched last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; applefacetime; bug; facetime; surveillance

1 posted on 01/29/2019 5:15:39 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Is this a bug, or an undocumented feature provided by off-shore developers? I’m guessing we will never know.


2 posted on 01/29/2019 5:26:22 AM PST by Bitman
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To: BenLurkin; Swordmaker
See also (CNBC): https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3723671/posts with lots of comments including Swordmaker's Apple ping.
3 posted on 01/29/2019 5:26:54 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: Bitman

“Is this a bug, or an undocumented feature provided by off-shore developers? I’m guessing we will never know.“

It was a feature, until the wrong people discovered it.


4 posted on 01/29/2019 5:37:46 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.”)
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To: Bitman

I see sign language becoming popular for secure face to face communication.


5 posted on 01/29/2019 5:41:19 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m no Apple fan, but most likely a defect. It happens in ALL software. With a little over 16k linux redhat’s we maintain, the security patching is never ending... just like with iOS, MacOS, Android, Windows, etc etc.


6 posted on 01/29/2019 5:45:50 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: jmcenanly

I was wrong about the sign language , but putting the phone under cover might work.


7 posted on 01/29/2019 6:10:44 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: BenLurkin

I like the delay in smart phones from when you hit the button to hang it up and when it actually hangs up and cuts the audio. I stay on and listen until it does finally cut it. Caught my adult kids talking crap about me many times because they thought the phone was hung up and I couldn’t hear them. lol

If you are going to dump on who you just got off the phone with, it is a good practice to wait about 10 seconds after you hit the button before you do.


8 posted on 01/29/2019 6:29:26 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: BenLurkin

Apparently Apple has shut down Group Face Time.

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/28/apple-disables-group-facetime-due-to-bug/


9 posted on 01/29/2019 6:32:13 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: BenLurkin
On an iPad, I tried to follow the instructions to disable FaceTime. No control that Mac9to5 had described. Then I found out why: I had never signed in to use FaceTime.

And more than likely I never will.

10 posted on 01/29/2019 7:02:42 AM PST by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: Openurmind

Your next call should have been to tell them they’re out of the Will.


11 posted on 01/29/2019 7:20:36 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
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To: BenLurkin
😂 There’s a reason cell phones and smart watches and other electronics are not allowed in certain facilities. Your phone is always listening and sending data somewhere.
12 posted on 01/29/2019 7:29:06 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: hanamizu

That explains why I wasn’t able to get this to work.


13 posted on 01/29/2019 7:29:12 AM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Bitman

My thought too - I thought Microsoft had the monopoly on them “undocumented features”...


14 posted on 01/29/2019 7:48:57 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: bgill

I have thought about hitting them up about what they said that they think I didn’t hear. But It’s working better to just keep score and not tip them off. lol

They are good kids and doing very well for themselves and I know they love me, I don’t take it to heart. They are just quite outspoken sometimes. Like myself... so I understand.

They have their own kids who they will have to deal with as teenagers very soon. They will figure out how it all works soon enough. :)


15 posted on 01/29/2019 8:01:34 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: BenLurkin

It’s an apple feature


16 posted on 01/29/2019 8:17:05 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: BenLurkin

Just the other day I listen in on some guy named Swordmaker. He was saying how much he likes Microsoft Windows 10 : )


17 posted on 01/29/2019 10:52:11 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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