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Pedophilia hiding in plain sight (Movie: The Butterfly Effect, 2004) [vanity]
01/06/2019 | self

Posted on 01/06/2019 12:29:56 AM PST by logi_cal869

I just watched The Butterfly Effect (2004) for the 2nd time, the last being over 12 years ago. Even though Kutcher's on my list of not watching, I couldn't recall some aspects of the movie and opted to watch it again (Netflix); I'm part glad I did, but not for obvious reasons (title gives it away). The first time I thought the displacement concept coupled with paradox was interesting; but I also thought the movie to be bizarre. Now I know why:

[spoiler alert]

If you've ever watched this movie and didn't pick up on the pedophelia from the perverted writers and producers:

Recall that every time Evan blacks out, he's being possessed/controlled by his older self.

So, then...

Who was controlling Evan when he & 7 year-old Kayleigh are in her father's basement while "daddy" is making the "movie"? Recall that Evan "wakes up" (he had blacked out and does not recall what occurred). They are standing there ostensibly naked; we later find out why.

Kayleigh revisits what happened during the later scene - an alternate timeline - when she's a hooker in the restaurant with Evan. She tells him what happened when he blacked out. The worst part of this is not the perverted father: It is consideration of the fact that college-age Evan was controlling 7 year old Evan when he blacked out during the father filming the naked children.

Hollywood perverts. The writers wrote it & the producers approved it. The movie could have been great without hiding their proclivities for pedophelia in plain sight.

I astonished that I missed it the first time but, then again, I wasn't so keen to the scope of it all until the last few years.

Even with all that we've learned about Hollyweird in over a decade, it's rather disturbing to see it blatantly placed in a movie with no bearing on the plot whatsoever.


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KEYWORDS: ashtonkutcher; harveyweinstein; hollywood; movies; pedophile; pedophilia; thebutterflyeffect
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Did anyone else see the movie and catch that?

I'll be much more keen to such placements in movies in the future. I'm considering writing a couple of letters...given that this movie now smacks of "grooming" from where I sit...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289879/?ref_=nv_sr_1

1 posted on 01/06/2019 12:29:56 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Planting seeds hoping they will sprout. Trickey little devils.


2 posted on 01/06/2019 1:18:35 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: logi_cal869

I’ve never seen it. Never will.

Producers don’t make movies to entertain. They make them to place thoughts into our minds. The plot of a movie is there to draw you in, to get you to willingly suspend your disbelief, and to accept whatever the movie tells you. While you are in a state of suspended skepticism, and eagerly following the story line, they inject the thoughts they want you to have.

Sometimes it’s overt. Other times it’s subliminal. But it’s almost always there.

Look for interviews with the producers. They willingly share the reason why they made the film. They tell you their world view that is the reason for making the film.


3 posted on 01/06/2019 2:39:05 AM PST by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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To: logi_cal869

in 12 years you can gain a lot of perspective.


6 posted on 01/06/2019 3:06:30 AM PST by Fhios
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7 posted on 01/06/2019 3:45:51 AM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: PCPOET7

I agree. Saw it a long time ago an it is definitely anti=pedophile. Don’t see how it can be interpreted otherwise.


8 posted on 01/06/2019 4:19:36 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: PCPOET7

Taxi Driver didn’t promote paedophilia positively either. Pretty baby contained rather unneccessary child nudity that was no doubt considered edgy and controversial in the 1970s in a way that got publicity but from what I recall it didn’t portray child prostitution or child marriage positively either.


9 posted on 01/06/2019 4:56:48 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: logi_cal869

We’ve known the Hollywood was “Hollywierd” for much longer than a decade!


10 posted on 01/06/2019 5:25:10 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Bratch

....But most of the time a cigar is Freudian.....

Freud was a Deceiver of the first order.


11 posted on 01/06/2019 5:42:14 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: logi_cal869
You totally missed what the movie was about. Ashton Kutcher's character is able to actually relive the past to change what transpires from the previous enactment. The movie brings up all kinds of bad behavior including child molestation, prison rape, animal cruelty, accidental murder, suicide, drug addiction, mental illness, and prostitution.

He goes back to make things turn out better. It includes homophobic and racial slurs and other deeper points as the movie tries to make the case that the butterfly effect, chaos theory, play huge roles in determining the kind of people individuals turn out to be based upon events & decisions large and small they experience. Or stated another way, that people are products of their environments.

But my take is that people are products of their environment only to the extent they allow their environment to shape their development. Because obviously people react differently even when they are subjected to similar environments. So people turn out the way they are because of the individual and how they personally react to their environment. How they chose to react is what shapes them.

12 posted on 01/06/2019 6:13:51 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: logi_cal869

First off why are you rewatching that movie it was terrible. Second off he BLACKED OUT, blacking out is not pedophilia. People black out from things that shock and frighten them. And then the thing had terrible repercussions. Why write letters about a 14 year old crappy movie nobody wants to watch? it’s in the ash heap of history, leave it there, nobody likes it anyway.


13 posted on 01/06/2019 6:22:41 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: logi_cal869

Glad I never watched it and now I never will.

Thanks for the *spoiler*.


14 posted on 01/06/2019 6:24:40 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: logi_cal869

Disagree completely with your take. There was nothing in that movie that glorified pedophilia.


15 posted on 01/06/2019 6:44:14 AM PST by bethelgrad
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To: logi_cal869

Not sure your interpretation is correct...let’s not do what the Left does and “exaggerate” things to fit the agenda you would like to be true.


16 posted on 01/06/2019 7:24:32 AM PST by trebb (Put your money where your mouth is - or be deemed "empty hot air worthless")
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To: logi_cal869

That’s a misinterpretation.

However, National Lampoon’s Vacation thinks pedophilia is hilarious.

Rocky Horror picture show begins with two rapes.

And Sixteen Candles ends with a rape.


17 posted on 01/06/2019 7:33:28 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: logi_cal869
If the film were celebrating, glorifying, or promoting pedophilia the film would have shown children and adults as being normal and happy.

The film is about trying to correct destructive experiences (child sexual abuse) from the past that have haunted and traumatized people throughout their lives.

It's not promoting or celebrating pedophilia. It's a warning about the long-range consequences of abuse.

Just because you found the subject disturbing doesn't discount the importance of the message.

18 posted on 01/06/2019 7:42:21 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: logi_cal869

Sounds like you need to watch it again. You didn’t get it.


19 posted on 01/06/2019 7:43:18 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Robert DeLong

He blacked out in the basement. Thus he “relived” that experience at least once.

Sick.


20 posted on 01/06/2019 8:19:35 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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