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The Planet Has Seen Sudden Warming Before. It Wiped Out Almost Everything
New York Times ^ | December 7, 2018 | Carl Zimmer

Posted on 12/09/2018 8:08:53 AM PST by EdnaMode

Some 252 million years ago, Earth almost died.

In the oceans, 96 percent of all species became extinct. It’s harder to determine how many terrestrial species vanished, but the loss was comparable.

This mass extinction, at the end of the Permian Period, was the worst in the planet’s history, and it happened over a few thousand years at most — the blink of a geological eye.

On Thursday, a team of scientists offered a detailed accounting of how marine life was wiped out during the Permian-Triassic mass extinction. Global warming robbed the oceans of oxygen, they say, putting many species under so much stress that they died off.

And we may be repeating the process, the scientists warn. If so, then climate change is “solidly in the category of a catastrophic extinction event,” said Curtis Deutsch, an earth scientist at the University of Washington and co-author of the new study, published in the journal Science.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: EdnaMode

Good, no more libs.


61 posted on 12/09/2018 9:43:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: EdnaMode

Great news!

Now I’ll just start buying stuff - cars, vacations, homes - on credit. The world will end before I have to pay off.


62 posted on 12/09/2018 9:55:59 AM PST by oldbill
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To: EdnaMode
Sure....they searched the oceans and found 96% extinct.

Relying on a fossil here and a fossil there....hardly the basis for a real number.

Dear oh Mighty Scientists....Please list the names and descriptions of the 96% of ocean critters that went extinct and documentation of their location.

63 posted on 12/09/2018 10:05:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: EdnaMode

Warming? We’ve already had single digit temperatures, with below zero wind chill. We’ve had snow several times. The first snowfall in early November brought 7-8 inches. My car is covered in a light dusting since yesterday. I live in Central NY State. Today’s temperature is 30...windchill 22. Overnight temps in the teens. I wouldn’t mind some global warming right about now.


64 posted on 12/09/2018 10:20:47 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: ETL

Must...Go...Faster!!!!


65 posted on 12/09/2018 10:21:46 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
Must...Go...Faster!!!!

Yes! Have to get away from that lunatic in a t-rex costume!



Image result for t-rex suv gif

66 posted on 12/09/2018 10:27:19 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Pollster1

is that because planets naturally warm up when they leave a full ice age or even a little one?


or that the Sun’s output changes

or that a very large solid rock collides with the Earth ...

or that the very large solid rock is so large that major volcanic flows occur on the side opposite the impact ... (Siberian Traps/Deccan Traps)


67 posted on 12/09/2018 10:42:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: EdnaMode
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Well, things sure were a lot different during the period of the Permian Extinction. Note how all the earth's landmasses were jammed together. I'm not an expert, but the conditions for life were a lot different then. Things that we take for granted that affect our general climate -- like the Gulf Stream that is so important in moderating European winters -- couldn't have existed then because, heck, there wasn't a Caribbean Sea.

68 posted on 12/09/2018 10:57:52 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: EdnaMode

If the warming took place over 3,000 years, then on land and in the oceans, animals who were mobile would move north or south to get cooler.


69 posted on 12/09/2018 11:01:27 AM PST by dominic flandry
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To: Tallguy

70 posted on 12/09/2018 11:03:14 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: EdnaMode

The one (and only) good thing about a NYT article on science is that virtually anyone with above room temp IQ (which eliminates a good many Democrat representatives) can easily refute the article with no effort whatsoever.

Gads, it’s sooooooo wonderful when a mere journalist attempts to write on the one subject he/she/it/whatever avoided like the plague even in elementary school.


71 posted on 12/09/2018 11:27:57 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: EdnaMode

“May”. “If so”. Yeah, let’s panic and enact a tax.


72 posted on 12/09/2018 11:58:11 AM PST by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers)
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To: EdnaMode
".... solidly in the category of a catastrophic extinction event...."

This guy is desperate so make sure his grant money keeps flowing.

I read some study last year that said if all of the wealth of the world was pooled together to fight climate change, the result would be an almost imperceptible change in the earth's temperature.

IOW, we can't throw enough money at this issue to make a difference.

If some catastrophic extinction event were to occur, we'd all be thumbing a ride down the same burnt-up highway anyway. Or dead.

73 posted on 12/09/2018 12:12:24 PM PST by HotHunt (Reagan was good but TRUMP IS GREAT!)
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To: HIDEK6
“Earth Scientist” is a made-up word.

Maybe you'd prefer geologist, i.e., the Greek combining forms "geo" for Earth and "ology" meaning "a science or other branch of knowledge." So we'd call geologists " Earth scientists" or "scientists who study the Earth."

74 posted on 12/09/2018 12:50:21 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: EdnaMode
...but they just said it's getting colder--that we're all going to freeze!

All I know is we'd better REPENT!. The end of the world is nigh!

75 posted on 12/09/2018 12:53:16 PM PST by Savage Beast (President Trump is the intellectual, moral, and spiritual superior of those who seek to destroy him.)
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To: EdnaMode

So many of the variables that contribute to the climate of the earth, not least of which is its geologic arrangement & landscape, were not the same contextually in, during or at the end of the Permian period, and therefor neither “warming” nor what came from it consequentially then, can be claimed as a barometer of what may result from any warming that may develop now.

Its a typical “science” attempt to make orange juice from apples.


76 posted on 12/09/2018 12:53:26 PM PST by Wuli
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To: EdnaMode
It's not CO2, It's not you. It's the sun.

Adapt 2030

77 posted on 12/09/2018 12:56:02 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: EdnaMode
On Thursday, a team of scientists offered a detailed accounting of …

And how many of the "Climate scientists" have undergrads in stuff like Political Science, Sociology, or the various Victim Studies fields?

These people are just loads of fun to talk to. Ask them to explain the water cycle as taught to a third-grade or fourth-grade science class. They can't.

78 posted on 12/09/2018 12:58:56 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

George Carlin is correct. One thing he misses. No all of humanity is stupid or tied to majority stupid people. Humans will adapt and survive. We may revert 4000 years but some will live.


79 posted on 12/09/2018 1:09:27 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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To: Bernard Marx

You have made my point.


80 posted on 12/09/2018 1:19:45 PM PST by HIDEK6 ( God bless Donald Trump.)
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