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LiDAR Reveals an Ancient Roman Highway
Real Clear Science ^ | March 26, 2018 | Ross Pomeroy

Posted on 03/26/2018 7:56:36 AM PDT by C19fan

The mountainous, limestone landscape near Trieste, Italy is a wonder to behold. Slightly acidic water carves and erodes the soluble, sedimentary rock over many thousands of years, fracturing the terrain and creating jagged formations. Above ground is a garden of naturally-cut sculptures. Below ground lies a system of weathered caves. The place fosters a distinct feeling of oldness.

It is in this picturesque setting that a team of Italian and Australian scientists has discovered an ancient Roman highway. The etched lines of the archaic road are just tens of centimeters deep, but stand out clearly in exquisite images created with LiDAR mapping technology (see figure below).

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearscience.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: australia; godsgravesglyphs; infrastructure; italy; roman; romanempire; trieste
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Mind blowing that the infrastructure the Romans built would not be duplicated in the West until the 19th century.
1 posted on 03/26/2018 7:56:36 AM PDT by C19fan
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I once watched a documentary on Pompei...it was laid out in lots and blocks very similar to modern cities. I thought that was amazing.


2 posted on 03/26/2018 8:00:18 AM PDT by lacrew
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The irony was Rome was about as unplanned a city as they come. But when the Romans started a city from scratch they used urban planning.


3 posted on 03/26/2018 8:01:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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What we need is LieDAR. We could use it on democrats, and republicans, and judges. We could use it on the media, but that would probably break it.


4 posted on 03/26/2018 8:02:22 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: C19fan
Looks like Cydonia...


5 posted on 03/26/2018 8:04:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Not only did the Romans invent highways, but they also invented toll booths.


6 posted on 03/26/2018 8:09:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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Well, I learned about hobnails today. Linked is a picture of an old Roman boot.

http://www.ahrc.ac.uk/research/readwatchlisten/imagegallery/2014galleries/imageobjecttext/romano-british-leather-shoe-top-and-bottom-view-with-iron-hobnails/


7 posted on 03/26/2018 8:22:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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The skills & knowledge of stonemasonry and concrete necessary to build Roman infrastructure existed for many millenia prior to the republic/empire. What was lacking was a military force in possession of weapons (steel metallurgy - wheels, arms, shields, etc) that allowed complete domination and control. Once the empire's boundaries were securely in place, then the virtuous cycle of recycling taxation and tribute back into public works began the 1000 year long reign.

However, as we are seeing with pax Americana, as other regions catch up in weapons technology, our ability to project and secure practically every region on earth is eroding. The dollar system is entirely dependent on this leverage, which is why it is imperative we maintain control over MENA petro regions.

In Roman times, once the regional provinces were able to develop and deploy comparable arms, the manned forces - which were always capable, especially the Germans, just outmatched - were able to begin securing victories. (Which of course resulted in the Germans eventually defeating Rome and occupying the core regions (Catalonia/Milan) where they are still dominant today in the core economic centers of those countries.

In fact, after the fall of the empire, weapons technology was so evenly spread that it allowed for the growth and spread of city-states during the medieval era. It wasn't until central states once again became technologically dominant (again through metallurgy ie canon) that nations and empires were again able to be constructed. Constantinople fell because the Turks were able to deploy the largest canon built to date - they simply pulverized the walls until they were breached. It also helped that anyone with a clue had long departed back to the West.

8 posted on 03/26/2018 8:23:12 AM PDT by semantic
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Maybe if the Roman Empire hadn’t collapsed, industrialization would have happened over 1000 years earlier.


9 posted on 03/26/2018 8:24:12 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Hard to say given how slave based Rome’s economy was. No incentive for useful technological development.


10 posted on 03/26/2018 8:27:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: lacrew

I was watching a documentary this weekend, that showed wear patterns on the ancient roads. It showed that Pompeii had distinct one way streets in the marketplace.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. :-)

It was probably the same documentary. lol


11 posted on 03/26/2018 8:35:41 AM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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It was not by accident that the North, where slavery was not prevalent and was largely abolished by 1820, was the focus of the American Industrial Revolution. England, the first nation to experience the Industrial Revolution in Europe, had abolished serfdom before the rest of Europe.


12 posted on 03/26/2018 8:46:42 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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CNN would break such a device...


13 posted on 03/26/2018 9:34:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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We could use CNN as the maximum test.
If it can survive CNN, it could probably survive the devil himself.


14 posted on 03/26/2018 9:37:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Moonman62

Roman roads lasted hundred of years.

Modern roads last hundreds of minutes before developing pot holes and colapsing.


15 posted on 03/26/2018 9:57:01 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: SunkenCiv

“RutNutting” Roman roads with LiDAR ping....


16 posted on 03/26/2018 10:12:58 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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I was stationed in Aviano Italy in the late 70s. Going up the alps you could see the still functioning Roman aqueducts. Also Trieste is part of the Italian Riviera with absolutely beautiful Beaches. I remember going there in the middle of winter with fellow Airmen. We would walked down the middle of the streets with our cases of beer and 54 liter Demijars of Wine through this eerie totally empty beautiful town.


17 posted on 03/26/2018 10:26:03 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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The is in the so-called Ljubljana Gap, the pass leading from Trieste to Ljubljana in Slovenia. From there, other passes lead into Austria.

One of the great controversies of WWII was Churchill advocating for the cancellation of Anvil, the invasion of Southern France and eventual link-up with Eisenhower, in favor of leaving the troops in Italy under Alexander to fight through the mountains and Gothic Line into the Po Valley, over to Trieste, up the Gap and somehow beat the Russians to Vienna and Budapest. When Roosevelt and Marshall turned him down, with Brooke's support, he later proposed a landing near Trieste to do the same operation.

The problems were manifold. The Germans had proven in Italy to be masters of defensive warfare in the mountains. The roads and railroads were thin if not poor. Inside the Gap there was only room for two divisions to maneuver, so "shooting" the Gap was not feasible. North of Ljubljana there were more mountains and passes to force. And if the Allies pulled it off, of what value was Vienna compared to the Ruhr and a path to Central Germany and Berlin?

Churchill was a great wartime leader, but the war plans were better left to others.

18 posted on 03/26/2018 10:40:59 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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#9 They would have tv shows and magazines like this....
http://thecia.com.au/star-trek/original-series/213a


19 posted on 03/26/2018 10:53:46 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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(Which of course resulted in the Germans eventually defeating Rome and occupying the core regions (Catalonia/Milan) where they are still dominant today in the core economic centers of those countries.
..........

I have seen modern research that shows that coastal cities along the northern Mediterranean coast of france italy and greece were all burned down about 650-700 AD. That they were not rebuilt for another 100 years and then only in heavily fortified garrisons further inland —suggesting that the cities were burned down by raiders from the sea.

Since this period coincides with the moslem seizure of north africa and spain —its thought the raiders were likely moslem; that the destruction of the roman world came at the hands of the moslems and not the Gauls who wanted rather to imitate the romans they conquered. That the dark ages were caused by the Moslems and not the Gauls.

Have you read the archaeology books on this?

If so what’s your take.


20 posted on 03/26/2018 11:27:48 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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