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LiDAR Reveals an Ancient Roman Highway
Real Clear Science ^ | March 26, 2018 | Ross Pomeroy

Posted on 03/26/2018 7:56:36 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

This technology was conceived by Sarah Parcak, an Egyptologist and professor at the University of Alabama Birmingham. It’s since been used to make astounding discoveries all over the world. Like the five mile long canals the ancient Egyptians dug (since reclaimed by the desert) from the Nile river to the Giza plateau to move the huge blocks of stone bound for the pyramids inland by water. And forts and other lost encampments the Romans built along Hadrian’s wall.


21 posted on 03/26/2018 11:31:46 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ckilmer
Just like today, there are/were marginal areas that survived only due to the amount of wealth being generated overall. (Baltimore, Camden, Newark, et al are good examples of this principle.)

Once the Roman empire started to unravel, any area that (a) wasn't defended - thus open to attack; and (b) wasn't valuable - hence not rebuilt, would languish for years after being destroyed.

It's hard for people who haven't been to Europe - or even those that have only visited primary tourists zones - to understand just how incredibly vibrant & fertile certain regions (still) are. It was due to massive food surplus - combined with military technical advantages - that allowed Rome to deploy large, well trained and well supplied legions in the first place.

It is these temperate agricultural & commercial zones that the invading Germans occupied, defended and still reside & dominate. We know them by their modern names like the Po valley (Milan), Catalonia (Barcelona), France (Gaul), and London (Londinium).

Another tip off about history is the term 'dark ages'. This is phrase invented and used by promoters during the Renaissance who were advancing the ideals of art & literature. While the so-called dark ages lacked the finer arts, military technology was still advancing quite rapidly.

It's because each castle/region could deploy equal force that prevented anyone from 'running the table'. So, roads fell into disrepair and trade plummeted since no single force could ensure the peace. But it was due to ongoing military technologies that allowed nations to re-emerge as dominant players. This is turn led to stable kingdoms like France and Lombardy which them created enough foundation to once again allow the 'soft' arts to flourish.

22 posted on 03/26/2018 12:04:28 PM PDT by semantic
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To: C19fan
What I have a hard time figuring out is how they did it using their math - imagine engineering all those projects when you have you add/divide/multiply using their numbering system?

i.e. Roman Arithmetic

23 posted on 03/26/2018 12:49:15 PM PDT by Oatka (tHE)
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To: TXnMA; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks TXnMA for the ping, and C19fan for the topic.

24 posted on 03/26/2018 6:22:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Moonman62

Electric motors would have been discovered 1,000 years earlier if Islam hadn’t destroyed Hellenic civilization.


25 posted on 03/26/2018 6:28:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: colorado tanker
Well put. After Sicily, British troops in Italy had to be put under US command which was better able to get them to fight, and even that was of limited success. Brooke knew that US support would be essential for continued fighting in Italy -- some of if not the worst terrain for combat in the entire war -- and after the southern objectives were in hand (13 airfields, putting occupied e Europe's oilfields and factories in range of British bombers) there was no further point to fighting in Italy. Churchill was unmatched in his speeches, but was always looking beyond the war, how best to position the UK at as little cost as possible, as it devolved its empire; that he was a sneaky little **** was shown during a wartime "Big Three" conference, when he slipped Stalin a note proposing a percentage division of influence over each of the eastern European nations after liberation (it was pointed out that it would be like trying to keep a woman half-pregnant), and Stalin mock-innocently brought it up in front of FDR, knowing full well that Churchill had never told him about it.

26 posted on 03/26/2018 6:35:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Oatka

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27 posted on 03/26/2018 6:40:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: ckilmer

See Mohammed and Charlemagne by Henri Pirenne, which was published in the late 1930s. His thesis was that what really ended classical civilization, destroyed the unity of the Mediterranean world, and cut off West from East was the Islamic invasions of the 7th century, not the Germanic ones of the 5th.


28 posted on 03/26/2018 6:46:38 PM PDT by Burma Jones
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To: C19fan
"No incentive for useful technological development."

The Romans did all right for themselves:

The Roman Flour Mill at Barbegal

29 posted on 03/26/2018 6:57:06 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: Wallace T.; C19fan; Moonman62
Good points about slavery. If the Romans had ever figured out that they needed an orderly system of succession, and that generally the political classes were their own worst enemy, the Empire might never have fallen. Good thing though for all of us that it did, else none of us would ever have been born. :^)

30 posted on 03/26/2018 6:58:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Flag_This
Use of water power to mill grain never ended, but the Romans were remarkable in use of machinery to accomplish work. One of the Roman mines in Spain used water power (via an aqueduct of some miles length) to "pan" for the gold at a high rate of speed.

31 posted on 03/26/2018 7:01:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: ckilmer; semantic
Probably correct, the muzzies were causing turmoil all over the Middle East and in the Balkans (attacking Constantinople).

32 posted on 03/26/2018 7:05:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Paal Gulli

LiDAR’s been around since 1960; Parcak’s been around since 1979.

Her use of LiDAR in Egypt pissed off Zahi “Zowie” Hawass, so she gets props for that. :^)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Parcak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/sarahparcak/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/remotesensing/index

https://web.archive.org/web/20120324182247/http://www.drhawass.com/blog/bbc-satellite-project


33 posted on 03/26/2018 7:18:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
"...the Romans were remarkable in use of machinery to accomplish work."

I couldn't find a picture, but I've seen the remains of what was believed to be a Roman water-powered saw that cut slabs of marble or limestone. They were so darned...competent. I think that is what fascinates me about them, on one hand they seem modern in so many ways (roads, aqueducts, water-powered mills), but on the other hand they're so retro with their superstitions and entrail interpreting.

34 posted on 03/26/2018 7:28:25 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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To: ckilmer

I think this gentleman explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y


35 posted on 03/26/2018 11:04:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Eastern Europe's fate was determined by Stalingrad and the great Russian offenses that followed. The Red Army was always going to occupy Eastern Europe before we could possibly get there. Once occupied, Stalin had no intention of allowing any of those countries outside the Soviet orbit.

Even if we had gone on Churchill's merry Balkan adventure, we would have been tied down by the mountains, just as in Italy, and the Russians would still have taken Hungary first. Salvaging Greece was the best we could do and Churchill admitted as much in his "naughty" note to Uncle Joe.

That Roosevelt "gave away" Poland and Eastern Europe at Yalta is a myth. He couldn't give away what he didn't have and would never have.

We achieved what was feasible despite Winston, by focusing on driving through France and the Low Countries and occupying the majority of Germany. Stalin wanted the US out of Europe after the war, but he failed. Not only did we establish ourselves but kept Western and Northern Europe part of the Free World.

36 posted on 03/27/2018 3:53:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: C19fan
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Nobody likes to live in “planned” cities.

They are boring, inartistic and stressful to live in.
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37 posted on 03/27/2018 4:05:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ckilmer

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The muzzies took over much of southern europe in that period.
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38 posted on 03/27/2018 4:08:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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