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Winchester 380 95 grain Hollow Point vs Federal 380 Hydra-Shok 90 grain
vanity | 3-2-2018 | kjam22

Posted on 03/02/2018 1:38:05 PM PST by kjam22

Just looking for advice. Purchased a new 380 S&W. Not owned 380 before and trying to decide best round for "when you need it." Not sure I'm smart enough to really know the differences between the two mentioned in the title. (Obviously one is 95 and the other 90 grain) But I would appreciate any advice and specifics on the differences.

Thanks much!

Hope I'm getting this posted to chit chat....


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To: technically right; kjam22
"Hornady 90 gr. Critical Defense is what you want."

I think that ended up being my second choice. I tested both the Hornady and the Hydra-Shok in my P238. Both worked fine.

It's been a while but I might have broken the tie based on slightly greater penetration (though perhaps not statistically significant) and the fact that I had already chosen Hydra-Shoks in other calibers. Either is probably a great choice.

21 posted on 03/02/2018 2:00:18 PM PST by William Tell
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To: kjam22

I don’t know. I have a little KelTec P3AT in .380. I had to try several brands of FMJ ammo before sticking with Remington UMC .380 ACP 95gr FMJ. Other ammo jammed. Coulda been me limp wristing it, but didn’t have that problem with the Remington. I haven’t tried any hollow point or extreme defense ammo in the .KelTec. I went thru the same pain in the butt to find .22LR for my Rugers (pistol & 10/22).

Not suggesting any brand, but the suggestion to try both is a good one to find what the weapon “likes”.


22 posted on 03/02/2018 2:00:25 PM PST by moovova
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To: technically right
Hornady 90 gr. Critical Defense is what you want.

Second that. Also feeds better than H-shock or standard hollow points.
23 posted on 03/02/2018 2:03:27 PM PST by Deek
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To: kjam22

Take a look at CORBON ammo. 90gr JHP 1050 fps...220ftlbs from a 2.4 inch barrel.

That’s what I shoot in both my 380’s


24 posted on 03/02/2018 2:11:58 PM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: kjam22

Buy at least a box of each and see which your gun feeds most reliably and shoots most accurately. Five grains isn’t going to make a significant difference in terminal ballistics.


25 posted on 03/02/2018 2:12:42 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Don't like my guns? Molon labe.)
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To: kjam22
20 Federal hydra shok costs more than 50 Winchester hollow points. Just curious if it was really cost effective?

If you or your family's life is at risk, they are cheap.

26 posted on 03/02/2018 2:16:03 PM PST by Oatka
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To: kjam22

Hydra Shock is my .380 round, feeds in everything including a Colt 1908.


27 posted on 03/02/2018 2:16:33 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: kjam22

If I was going to carry a .380 for self defense, (which I wouldn’t, but to each his own) I’d have it loaded with some combination of these:

https://www.lehighdefense.com/collections/ammo/355-380-auto

(Cognizant of the arguments against carrying mixed ammo for SD, I still choose to do so. )


28 posted on 03/02/2018 2:17:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: kjam22

I bought my first 1911 in late 1970. It was the new Series 70 Mark IV in .45ACP. I’ve never looked back.

All this fancy ammo, in my opinion, is just an admission that you need more gun.


29 posted on 03/02/2018 2:20:21 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: Zathras

Aren’t hydra Shocks also known as cop killers by the idiots on the MSM shows?


30 posted on 03/02/2018 2:20:24 PM PST by shotgun
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To: technically right

“Hornady 90 gr. Critical Defense is what you want.”

I’ll second that. I occasionally carry an LCP and did my own testing. They have the most reliable expansion.


31 posted on 03/02/2018 2:27:33 PM PST by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: moovova

Loved my 84F. Drop dead accurate out of the box. Traded a Walther PPK in for it. The PPK was worthless. It was brand new and would stove pipe every 2-3 rounds, plus it only held 7 rounds. Took it to several gunsmiths and they couldn’t correct the problem. And that was shooting quality ammunition


32 posted on 03/02/2018 2:28:56 PM PST by shotgun
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To: technically right

+1 on Hornady Critical Defense. The hollow point never plugs up and ALWAYS expands.


33 posted on 03/02/2018 2:32:35 PM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows what's right and he keeps on coming.)
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To: kjam22

I would run at least a couple hundred rounds of FMJ ball ammo thru your gun to break it in before I started comparing the self defense rounds for feeding reliability. It will make a difference.

That being said the Hydra Shoks have a many supporters (me included) and I also like the Hornady XTP’s.


34 posted on 03/02/2018 2:33:59 PM PST by Darth Mall
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To: technically right

That is what I bought some years back.


35 posted on 03/02/2018 2:35:43 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests
Have tried most .380 rounds.
If your pistol is an all steel frame the Buffalo Bore 90 grn.
jhp +p is a Hot loaded round.

Also like the Speer 90 grn. gold dot.


36 posted on 03/02/2018 2:40:12 PM PST by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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To: shotgun

Thanks.


37 posted on 03/02/2018 2:41:38 PM PST by moovova
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To: kjam22

I have a Sig P238 since it’s very concealable.
Damned near invisible in my blue jean pocket.


38 posted on 03/02/2018 2:45:59 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: kjam22

Can either of these two .380 be fried thru a Markov 9MM?


39 posted on 03/02/2018 2:48:59 PM PST by Bob Celeste
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I was going to buy, and looking for the P238.... $$$$ ran across this S&W M&P Body Guard. Was "slightly used." My wife has M&P 9mm she likes a lot. I ended up buying it instead of the p238. I like it a lot.... now it does have a LONG LONG trigger pull. And it's double action only. But it shoots really straight with not as much recoil as the RUGER LCP.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

40 posted on 03/02/2018 3:00:36 PM PST by kjam22
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