Posted on 03/02/2018 6:52:43 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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When I told my friend that I had reservations about her Trump-as-chosen-by-God assertion, she sent me a video in which evangelical prophesier Pastor Kim Clement had prophesied Trump’s rise to the presidency long before Mr. Trump came down the escalator and announced his candidacy. Watching the 2007 clip, it seemed a singular prediction; though Trump had spoken about seeking the presidency over the years, he didn’t float credible balloons about it until 2012. And from the moment he announced in 2015 and definitely after, the idea of a President Trump was perceived not only as the longest shot of long shots, but a laugh-out-loud joke.
But in a hair-raising 2007 sermon, invoking the words “Trump” and “Trumpet,” Clement spoke the words that a significant number of evangelicals now believe were a true prophesy.
I had never heard of Kim Clement. As a practicing Catholic, my exposure to evangelical leaders and preaching came mostly by way of men like Franklin Graham (Rev. Billy Graham was a religious paragon in our Catholic household going back to my childhood), Robert Jeffress, and the many pastors and ministers whose sermons I enjoy watching on television. Accustomed to spiritually meditative and ritual-observing participation at Mass, I found the lively evangelical and Protestant services affirming in their religiosity, and my sense was the enjoyment of witnessing such a service was in no way disrespectful to my Catholic faith.
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Watching Clement preach took “lively” to the next level. Here was a man, a prophet, apparently predicting years before any credible observer would give him credence, that God Himself would choose, of all people, Donald Trump, and vault him into the presidency of the greatest nation on earth.
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Being chosen by God does not necessarily mean a good leader. The biblical Kings Saul and Ahab were chosen by God but they were terrible, ungodly, Kings.
“These “evangelical prophesiers” are charlatans, or mixed up believers, at best.
Read Paul.”
St. Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, writes in Romans 13:1, “Let every soul be subject to the higher powers, for there is no power but of God, and the powers that be are ordained of God.”
That was a tall order since the rulers of Rome in those days were hateful men such as Nero, who tortured and killed in cruel ways the early Christian believers.
No I was not.
No one needs a self anointed prophet to know leaders are chosen by God.
Do you believe in these fake prophets?
The Obama’s, Barack Hussein & his wife Michelle are the agent’s of evil, sent by Satan, the Devil to destroy the USA nation republic. They are of no religion, neither Christian, Muslim, Jew, etc., or other. They worship only themselves, Satan and unending evil.
Can you imagine neither have showed up at the Reverend, Billy Graham, services or funeral? These two people are low life at its worst level.
“What’s hilarious is that THE MEDIA/NETWORK ESTABLISHMENT WANTED TRUMP TO BECOME THE NOMINEE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT HE WAS THE ONE MOST LIKELY TO LOSE AGAINST HILLARY.”
Definitely true. A huge backfire.
“God appoints and removes all world leaders for His purposes.
Even Obama.”
Yes. You read the Word of God.
Romans 13, people.
We don’t need a charlatan scam artist pretending to be a prophet to tell us this.
Jonathon Cohn, a Rabbi, compares Trump to Jehu in the Book Of Kings and how he was told to over throw Ahab and Jezebel.
Yep.
Don’t need self aggrandizing “prophets” to tell us this.
Even *because* of the massive effort made by the left and the media to keep him out.
Haman and his ten sons were hanged on the very gallows he had constructed for Mordecai. God was involved in every detail, yet He didn't have to lift a finger. The whole narrative is a paradox.
A man named Trump, coming out of nowhere... should have been a 'red flag' for the Establishment, but evil is dumb.
Nothing happens in God's world by mistake. I didn't say they were "Godly", just that God is in control - we do not live in a random universe.
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” Romans 13:1
You were one of the top 4 or 5 Trump haters on FR. I remember quite well.
As to fake prophets, a person with discernment can quickly pick out the fakes and, yes, most are.
I don't know this so-called prophet, but his prophecy certainly came true.
Perhaps it was luck. But it sure is interesting.
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Kim Clement was just one of many who heard GOD would be placing Donald J. Trump in the Oval Office. Mr. Trump had been groomed by the Lord his entire life for a time when he would be needed. This is believed, not only personally, but by many. America prayed; GOD answered.
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RR, thanks for the post!
That’s an interview with Tom Brokow. :)
Your link went to a Tom Brokaw Trump interview, nothing about the Hermit of Loreto. Which was a very interesting thing and I hadn’t thought of him since the election, until now.
Maybe this is the link you were thinking of? https://youtu.be/zhA9tjOjj0k
On another note, the young, fluffy 33 year old Trump in that interview...whew, be still my heart! :P
God doesn’t choose. He just arranges to have positions available, and we stumble into them, or don’t, based on free will and intellect. Choosing is what earth-bound egos do who don’t understand what the point of free will is.
Yes, as was Obama. Ad was all the leaders. The Bible says so.
All leaders are chosen by God-Romans 13:1-4. Even Obama was chosen by God (by being allowed to exist). Had Hillary won, she would have been chosen too. It seems a little short sighted to say a man we support is chosen by God and fail to remember that “Nero” was also chosen (the context in which Romans was delivered).
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