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The Last Jedi: The First Anti-Star Wars, Star Wars Movie
Townhall.com ^ | January 1, 2018 | Jack Kerwick

Posted on 01/01/2018 1:10:56 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

These idiots do not even understand nature. Predators establish territories that they defend against their kind. Herbivores often defend their grazing grounds. It is folly to separate humans from nature. We are nature.


61 posted on 01/01/2018 2:54:03 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: HamiltonJay; Kaslin

This is exactly how Asimov ruined the Foundation stories. I was a huge sci fi reader as a kid. The second trilogy threw out literally everything that made the first great literature.


62 posted on 01/01/2018 2:56:12 PM PST by fire and forget (Sic Semper Tyrannis Liberalis)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“I get confused with the extended titles. Was #7 Casablanca: The Usual Suspects, Casablanca: Play It Again, Again, Sam?, or Casablanca: We’ll Always Have Cairo?
-PJ”

EPISODE SEVEN -
THE QUEST FOR MORE MONEY


63 posted on 01/01/2018 2:58:13 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Kaslin
I haven't seen it yet. I don't know that I will. I loved 'Star Wars' and 'The Empire Strikes Back' when they came out when I was a kid - got the graphic novels, the books, everything. I was quite excited about the prequels until I actually saw 'The Phantom Menace' - passed on 'Attack of the Clones' and 'Revenge of the Sith'.

This latest batch, though - 'The Force Awakens' had some good moments, but I couldn't get past the emo teen villain and the by now stereotypical and still ludicrous little girl overpowering men three times her size and strength. 'Rogue One' gave us a bunch of new characters I didn't care about, as well as another little girl overpowering men three times her size and strength. This latest thing has Mark Hamill, who has never been a very good actor, along with the usual Grrrl Power and the emo teen villain, and some storyline that sounds dreadful.

All good things must come to an end - I didn't realize it at the time, but for Star Wars, that end was the closing shot of "The Empire Strikes Back".
64 posted on 01/01/2018 2:58:25 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Chipper
No, Ren is bad because he's bad. A big part of what happens in LJ is Ren throws away all the excuses he had. At the end of FA it was daddy issues and Snoke, now he's bad by choice. He killed Snoke and saw his chance to take over the First Order and said "yep, that's what I want". Everybody in the prequels thought Anakins was the Chosen One. That's why Qui-Gon bought him. End of Ep 1: "He is the Chosen One… He will…bring balance… Train him." ―Qui-Gon Jinn's last words, to Obi-Wan Kenobi The Ep 3 thing was Ben finally doing the math and figuring out what bringing balance actually meant. The Jedi didn't act on the side of good for the Republic. The Jedi were too stupid to actually do some investigation and figured out the same guy was running both sides of the war. They were pushed around like pawns. Unanswered questions are good for story telling. Especially if you're in the middle of a trilogy. Anybody CAN have Force powers, and they CAN do things with them without training. Most of Jedi training is teaching that you can do whatever you want with the Force, and then teaching you not to do much of anything. Luke had like 10 minutes worth of training in SW and was able to blow up the Death Star with it, and Force grab his lightsaber in the beginning of Empire.
65 posted on 01/01/2018 3:00:43 PM PST by discostu (let's do another bad one, cause I like it when the blood drains from Dave's face.)
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To: Kaslin

The Star Wars franchise is dead. It is now a zombie shambling around as SJW Wars.

Disney has sucked the life out of Star Wars as it does with every creative property it acquires. Disney no longer knows how to make movies. It only knows merchandising.


66 posted on 01/01/2018 3:04:10 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I understand and agree with what you said.

But to make our beloved heros entire lives meaningless and miserable and then kill them offhandedly to be replaced with characters we really care nothing about is an insult.

The rebels are weaker than ever. Apparently killing the emperor accomplished nothing in the original trilogy. And if that were not bad enough, Luke lives out the rest of his life in misery and regret alone milking stranger animals tits, and then just ... fades to nothingness. WTH?

It would be like... making more Harry Potter movies that start with the death eaters in control for no explained reason (ignoring the original happy ending) and led by Ron’s son who is obsessed with killing Harry Potter, who is living alone after his Jennie divorced him. The series starts with Rons son using new powers to uttery destroy Hoggwarts and the Ministry of Justice. Harry also has cancer and could care less about the death eaters being in control and just wants to be left alone to milk house-elf tits.


67 posted on 01/01/2018 3:06:00 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
All good things must come to an end - I didn't realize it at the time, but for Star Wars, that end was the closing shot of "The Empire Strikes Back".

Pretty much. They haven't made a decent Star Wars movie since then.

68 posted on 01/01/2018 3:09:24 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s kind of what happens when you continue a story past the “end”. Life goes on, there’s a new war, more bad guys, Patton dies from a weird car accident. It’s the innate problem with epilogues.


69 posted on 01/01/2018 3:10:39 PM PST by discostu (let's do another bad one, cause I like it when the blood drains from Dave's face.)
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To: Kaslin

In other words, The Last Jedi was written by a loyal devotee of Karl Marx and its their message of Communism written on the back of the beloved Star Wars legend in order to spread their hate.


70 posted on 01/01/2018 3:16:15 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: Kaslin

Is the woman the star/hero in this one?

If so, I’ll wait for the video...I’m way past tired of female heroes.


71 posted on 01/01/2018 3:17:50 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Hurtling deplorable!)
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To: tcrlaf

I thought it was: CASABLANCA 7: REVENGE OF THE ACTION FIGURES


72 posted on 01/01/2018 3:19:57 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Kaslin

I did not like the movie, very boring.

Of the three original stars, the two who died in the movies are alive and the one who is still alive in the movie is dead in real life.


73 posted on 01/01/2018 3:20:17 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: DiogenesLamp
I don't doubt it; that's what it means to be a fanatic.

I note this line from the article: "Having fallen in love with Star Wars from the time that I first saw it in the late 1970s, it brings this 45 year-old..."

That makes the author what, five years old when the first movie came out? Personally, I can't imagine being that wedded to a fictional character, but that's just me. I suppose Captain Kirk would be my Luke Skywalker from the perspective of the relative age (give on take) of the author to the introduction of the character, but I didn't melt down when the character was killed in such an unspectacular way. Again, that's just me.

I think you put your finger on it with appeal to subsequent fans. Consider:

That last one is the clincher. Disney is betting that the future customers to Disneyland and Walt Disney World in the next ten years are not going to see Luke, Lea, and Han; they will be going to see Rey, Finn, and Poe.

The sad truth is that original fans from 40 years ago will soon be too old to experience Star Wars Land for much longer, but they might go with their grandchildren who want to see the new generation of characters that will be there for the next 40 years.

-PJ

74 posted on 01/01/2018 3:22:48 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Kaslin

As someone who has seen all the movies but I don’t live and breathe them, this is the best and most exciting SW movie in quite awhile.


75 posted on 01/01/2018 3:26:22 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: discostu

the issue is... people fought and made sacrifices for a better tomorrow .. to defeat evil..

yes, life goes on. But where was the pay off for the original sacrifices? The emperor was killed... the assumption was the rebels WON... peace would be restored ... the sacrifices made, worth it..

But this series starts off as if the war was never won... peace was never restored... the good guys never got back in control, ect. It just picks up as if none of the conclusions from the previous series even happened. Then systematically kills off every one we love and replaces with them a bunch of people we really don’t care that much about.

They should have just jumped further into the future if they wanted to start with new actors. After a 100 years of peace or whatever... evil rises again or some such. Heck they could have even kept Luke alive that long, since yoda was 100’s of years old, due to the force.


76 posted on 01/01/2018 3:27:21 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

as a stand alone movie. Yes, it was good.

But as part of the overall story, it bit.


77 posted on 01/01/2018 3:28:20 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Political Junkie Too

Wow! That analysis is so cynical, it must be true! :-D


78 posted on 01/01/2018 3:29:00 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Kaslin
Several thing I still cant figure out in the Rogue One movie.

1. Why is it that the Imperial officers have the Blue bars on top but the Director himself has his Red bars on top of his uniform as if his is put on upside down?
2. Rogue One was the only Star Wars movie that didnt have the scrolling words on the start of the movie.
3. In the final scene why did the death star destroy the imperial base as there were many of their troops & equipment on the planet? There were just a handful of rebel troops on the planet to be mopped up as they were vastly outnumbered but why destroy your own base to kill a few stragglers?

79 posted on 01/01/2018 3:29:58 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The rebels are weaker than ever. Apparently killing the emperor accomplished nothing in the original trilogy.

I understand and agree with that. How is it that the Republic was not restored, and that a new Dark Side was allowed to emerg to take their place **cough**cough** Soviet Union**cough**Vladimir Putin**cough**cough**.

What kind of Disney theme park would it be it everyone lived in peace and harmony, "It's a small galaxy after all..."

-PJ

80 posted on 01/01/2018 3:31:11 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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