Posted on 11/28/2017 7:37:37 PM PST by cba123
But, boy, aren’t the progressives just agog at how great Bill and Barry were!
And what a nincompoop Reagan and all the (R)est have been.
Thanks for your reply. Quite frankly I do not know an answer on how to solve this problem. It is serious and delicate and very dangerous and has to be solved very soon.
We can not go nuclear. That is politically out of the question, hence my question regarding the Rods. I hope that President Trump was frank with the Chinese and laid it on the table. If we have to go to war, it will be quick, humane as possible as well as devastatingly total. Afterwards, China can install whomever they wish in power. I mean that is real-politik. North Korea is their puppet, but becoming bad for business. Maybe US aerial strikes and Chinese ground invasion. That would shock the world wouldn’t it?
WIll Kim use it...I firmly believe he would. I don’t lose sleep over it, but I think he would use his nukes, same as Iran. North Korea has to be taken out before Iran comes on line. Pak and India both have nukes, but both know that if one uses, the other will too. That keeps them in check there and Pakistan has more to loose than India.
The President can’t solve Iran until he solves North Korea. If we have the secret super weapons then this will be the time to use them. It will be interesting to see what the UN has to say tomorrow.
And then there is Russia, which has gotten all friendly firendl with North Korea just to be a real prick, I suppose. What deal will we strike with them? Offically recognize the Crimea as Russian? Let Assad stay in power? With either option we haven’t given anything up.
What do you all think is the way out. Its easy to say blow them the hell, but come on. Think about it.
Agreed. Either we stop them or innocent people are going to die. I am sorry that we will be forced to kill what are truly Kim’s hostages.
Thank you Barry and Hillary.
Reagan was successful. Even while the socialist Democrats applied very real pressure to stop him.
Shortly after Reagan was elected, by force, communist forces took over Grenada and the Panama Canal. Reagan went in and quickly took both tiny nations back, drove the communist forces and army’s out.
Our Democratically controlled Congress was furious!
This was before Nicaragua, and the reason Democrat Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill threatened Reagan with impeachment, if Reagan were to attempt to stop Moscow in Nicaragua!
Later however, there was so much damage done by Clinton, with so many left wing radicals purposely integrated into our intel community under Clinton, Bush Jr. was unable to ever regain control of them (the various intel agencies).
One of the big reasons, recall, Al Gore’s team (immediately after Clinton’ presidency) really did try to steal the close election from Bush Jr, and as such the liberals in Congress would not allow Bush to put in place new heads of various intel agencies. It was really bad.
When we were attacked on September 11, 2001, President Bush was still having to largely rely on Clintons intel community, as Congress had really stuck it to Bush over his election to office. Bush’s hands were truly tied!
I witnessed this first hand while deployed to several locations, while serving with the Army.
To this day, our population remains truly blind, dumb, and largely brainwashed in the truest sense, to how this has all led to where we are today!
“...O’Neill”
Man I keep messing up this spelling!
yep
Well do I recall!
The systemic failures of so many intelligence assessments about Iraq prior to 9/11 painted such a different picture than the Democrats so neatly reremembered just a few years later.
It was Democrats, Hillary in particular comes to mind, who talked up weapons of mass destruction because they knew it was the only way to get their base to care enough to galvanize them to support action (Bush, by contrast, spoke in Churchillian terms, of a growing threat rather than a present threat).
And why wouldn’t they? Contrary to a recent respin of things said back then Saddam’s bunch was doing everything it could to act like they had WMDs. Moreover, it was well known Clinton era assessments of Iraqi assets that said they had WMDs ... the same ones that the Bush Administration had to go by.
And other nations seem to have had similar assessments too!
But what really happened? You know, I seem to recall some high profile Democrat making a last minute trip over there who never got charged with the wrongdoing they maybe should have. Maybe my memory is faulty?
But Saddam had time (warning?) to bury important assets for later use he thought (a plan that it turned out to have been very poorly thought out, at least with respect to his best fighters) and whole convoys of stuff just mysteriously disappeared in Syria’s direction too. The Democrats? Their treacherous hides soon were pinning WMD “lies” that THEY led the charge telling on Bush. The faulty Clinton era intel became faulty Bush era intel.
(No mention, BTW, of the deleterious effects of the disregarding post Munich Olympics / Nixon-era anti-terrorism discussions *which Frank Church HAD to have known about* as well as the later Church Commission he led on our intelligence community ... no, Democrats are always deemed pure as snow even when they are as culpable as sin!)
The day after 9/11 the press found some precious, Ivy League darlings who were so mind****** by progressivism and political correctness that they couldn’t say that the terrorist were evil ... these self same idiots may well have bred and their brats could already be even dumber AntiFa twits for all I know. This is progressivism.
If I had a pile of poop come from my backside like the crap these “statesmen” on left have crapped just in my time I could never in good conscience appear in public ever again ... but they just keep on going: like some cultural Marxist version of the Energizer Bunny.
And YES, Clinton, Bush, and Obama really did give Rocket Man the whole store!
While there may be some intelligent arguments to the contrary, I am not so positively sure Clinton and Obama were really motivated to stop North Korea from obtaining nuclear weapons.
Part of the reason for this thinking, North Korea is not truly autonomous, and has acted strategically as a buffer in neutralizing and manipulating potential enemy’s of China’s very real communist government.
What is really going on here? There is evidence, several (if not all), of the nuclear weapons which have been tested in North Korea, actually utilized Chinese and Russian technology, or straight up came from China. There is also significant evidence the missiles being tested are comprised of Chinese parts and technology at least, if not outright Chinese built altogether.
We actually know this.
So why would Bill Clinton (and Berry) be so willing to actually give billions of dollars and even nuclear power technology (under Clinton) to “pacify” NK?
Before Clinton was elected POTUS, the Clinton/Gore Campaign was illegally given many millions of dollars by the Chinese government itself. It was learned the Chinese government utilized Chinese citizens throughout the US, to funnel smaller amounts of money into the Clinton/Gore Campaign!
Eventually, many people were investigated for this, and many fled the country back to China.
Once Clinton was president, Clinton began giving nuclear technology to the Chinese, by allowing Chinese nuclear physicist access to a number of famous US nuclear weapons research facilities. Clinton also forced a handful of large US Defense contractor company’s to work with the Chinese to get their Chinese satellites into space. All of this was ultimately illegal. A couple of individuals still went to jail for what Clinton made them do. But Clinton had total cover from the media and press.
Many other criminal type relationships were carried on with the Chinese by Bill Clinton, like allowing the Chinese to funnel AK-47’s into the hands of gangs in California. He even awarded administrative control of the Panama Canal to the Chinese, over the objection of Panama and several other large corporations. It was done through a known front company of the Peoples Army of China, called Hutchinson Wampoa, which was based in Indonesia.
*So what we have here, is POTUS Bill Clinton, who received many millions of dollars from the Communist Chinese Government, being elected to office, giving Communist China (which ultimately rules and uses North Korea as its own whipping boy for much of its own strategic militaristic purposes), nuclear weapon and ICBM technology, and looking the other way while we knew some of this technology was being utilized in North Korea, as kickbacks for funding his campaign!
It all sounds crazy, I know!
It should also SOUND FAMILIAR?
What has happened more recently?
It has now become apparent, the Clintons were involved in giving more than 20% of our US Strategic Uranium Supply to Russia. In exchange, it has now been widely reported the Clinton Foundation received more than $145,000,000 million dollars throughout this process!
It is hard to believe this money was not “kickback” from Russia, a true Tier 1 nuclear threat to the US!
Stay tuned, there is yet much to be learned about the Clintons and the Obama Administration, and their designs of getting rid of Trump, who Russia and China see as a real threat!
The true and massive corruption and conspiracy against the US (”collusion”), has taken place under the Clintons and Obama!
What's the payload? Even a miniature nuke is pretty heavy. They have not shown that they have a device that can withstand reentry shock.
They do not have a credible nuclear weapon, but they are certainly well on the way. Only one country has ever done an end-to-end test of a nuclear device, from launch (from a submarine) to detonation over land.
We go along with the fiction that this isn’t China threatening us.
Armed by the CIA and Obama and Clinton to attack
America.
This was TREASON. This is TREASON.
The US military should take them all out.
And the fat boy gets too much of his news from the MSM
That’s funny. Mattis is supposedly a “play nice or by God I’ll kill you all” tough guy. How do you figure him soft?
Isn’t that the same technowogy that our nukes run on? Actually, come to think of it, it’s the older 5 1/4” floppies.
You look at the trajectory and even someone as ignorant as me knows that thing didn’t whiz over China without a lot more than permission.
Well then, we must take the next launch as carrying a workable nuclear warhead and act as such.
To me as a kid ( born '49 ) in the fifties, The War was ancient history. WWII comics and TV dramas were prominent through the mid sixties, though, and I'm sure the comics, at least, used the term "Jap", as a matter of historicity. Honestly, I don't think it was a term of hatred, as I heard it, but simply an historical artifact. By that time the Japanese were being recognized as an economic rival, and I listened to "The Lion Sleeps tonight" on my SONY miniaturized transistor radio ( These were known as "SONYs" ) and felt I was part of the future.
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