Many members of an earlier generation did hear of him. Rifles for Watie (New York: Harper and Row, 1957), a novel for young people, won the prestigious Newbery Award and went through several editions.
“Endeavor to persevere.”
EXCELLENT point on Stand Watie.
If the other side wasn’t in this for pure power they’d have to admit you were right.
Ping.
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Great article. Thanks for posting it.
Please boycott and DO NOT use the $1.00, $20.00, $50.00, & $100.00 bills, as they depict pictures of slave owners. Gather all of these hideous forms of racism and send them to me. I will see to it that they are disposed of properly. You don’t have to thank me, I do this as a public service for my country.
Many members of an earlier generation did hear of him. Rifles for Watie (New York: Harper and Row, 1957), a novel for young people, won the prestigious Newbery Award and went through several editions.
Thinking I need to put a copy of “ Gone With The Wind “ in my safe...
What ever happened to our ardent friend stand_watie? I miss her on these threads, albeit a bit volatile!
When I attended ceremonies for the Confederate POW burial ground at Pt. Lookout, prominent were a few representatives of the Cherokee Nation. The chief presented a memorial wreath from the Cherokee as we all did.
It’s amazing how much we DON’T know about our history. A tad more information would put things in much better context. I’ve learned alot on the RevWar side, being a devotee to our founding.
If anyone should be bitter about the Civil War it is the South. The South was all but destroyed for their resistance of the North. These memorials to figures of the South are some concession to dignity that I’ll say allowed the war to end and the nation to mend just a little. They are not icons to the memory of slavery. It is just stupid to believe that.
Let’s just tear down all the statues and destroy all the icons of our past and former principles and become an even more directionless, traditionless, hedonist nation.
I have already stated that not only Cherokees but blacks as well held slaves
Antifa and their efforts aren’t about any of that. They are commies through and through
They should replace the statues with statues of abolitionists.
BLM’s response: You want us to put up statues of white people?
The debate would be fun to watch.
Will they attack the Tahlequah memorial? The Stand Watie Memorial Highway? Stand Watie’s grave not far from here?
Not long ago I saw a large number of paintings done by a local honoring Watie and his battles.
For those interested, almost all the tribes in Oklahoma and the plains went to war against the Union. Only the Pawnee, Crow and a small band of Yakaton Sioux remained loyal to the North. Osages were split, but most went South. It was believed /confederate agents were slipping in from Canada stirring up the northern tribes.
On the plains, the Apaches in New Mexico attacked the Union forts and welcomed in the Confederate cavalry. Farther north, the Cheyenne and Arapaho had the same plans for forts along the Arkansas River. Some members of Black Kettle’s tribe, being schooled in St Louis immediately joined the Confederate army and fought in Missouri, Arkansas and Mississippi. They were believed to be agents for the South when Chivington hit their camp at Sand Creek and captured them. Chivington had earlier helped destroy a Confederate advance into New Mexico and felt the hostile tribes were “Red Rebels”
After the war, the Oklahoma tribes were forced to give up almost all the western part of Oklahoma. These areas were later made into reservations for other western tribes forced out of their homelands.
And a tip of the hat to you for a small, edifying piece of Oklahoma history.
Those statues have been standing there for decades, in some cases over 100 years. Now all of a sudden they’re offensive. The vandals must be told that if they don’t like a statue, be tolerant (like they’re always telling US to be tolerant) and just walk past it. They’re like little two-year-olds saying, “I don’t like it, take it down!” I hate the fact there’s a statue to a plagiarizer, womanizer, and communist in D.C., but if I saw it I wouldn’t deface it. These people tearing down statues should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This crap has to stop.
One of many problems the Indians had was their tendency to pick the losing side when the whites around them went to war. During the French and Indian War, they picked the French. During the Revolution, most tribes backed British and during the Civil War, the tribes that got involved tended to go with the Confederates. I understand why they chose as they did, but backing the loser in a bitter war doesn’t make you many friends on the winning side.
Went and checked my files. It appears John Ross, Chief of the pro-Union Cherokees, sent word that the following tribes had treated or joined with the Confederacy.
Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Osages, Seminoles, Senecas, Shawnees, Quapaws, Comanches, Wachitas, Kiowas, and Pottawatamies.
None of these tribes regained friendly relations with the Union until the Treaty of Sept 21, 1865. The five tribes in Oklahoma, which had reservations stretching from Arkansas to the Texas line, gave up the western portions of their reservations in 1866 for the much smaller reservation areas they have today.
Just so everyone knows about the “Indian Land” on the Washita, Black Kettle, after Sand Creek, was given a reservation in the former Cherokee Strip, but he had his tribe go to the former Chocktaw-Chickasaw lands, when they decided to attack farms and ranches in Kansas until Custer raided the village. They were NOT on their assigned lands.
Blah blah blah
Same old white excuses and pandering while under attack
Like half of this forum
About fifty posters who’s names are on my homepage are as guilty as the professional left