Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

There’s a 'supervolcano' waiting to erupt beneath a seemingly 'beautiful' market....
CNBC ^ | 08/07/2017 | Annie Pei

Posted on 08/07/2017 10:44:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Full Headline: There’s a 'supervolcano' waiting to erupt beneath a seemingly 'beautiful' market, according to a portfolio manager

"We went back to 1994 and researched team data that said [that if we look at cyclically adjusted P/E, one out of two times] the market was down in the next 12 months, and about one out of three times it was down more than 10 percent," he said.

James' observations seem to mirror a note released more than a week ago by Goldman Sachs, which found that when valuations have been this high, 10-year returns on the S&P 500 have been either in the single digits or negative 99 percent of the time.

In other words, the market could be in oversold territory, which James does believe.

"It doesn't mean that we'll see a volcanic eruption in the immediate future, and these market peaks take a long time, but we're definitely in the latter stages of this market advance," he said. "We're going to see the inevitable correction, I just wish I could say I knew when."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; stockmarket; stockmarketwarning
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

1 posted on 08/07/2017 10:45:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

The sky is falling.
Just buy my new book and I’ll tell you all about it..............


2 posted on 08/07/2017 10:48:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Unless the supervolcano is about to level mecca I am about as interested and am willing to invest my time and resources in listening to it as I would be in a story about a non hot woman


3 posted on 08/07/2017 10:50:11 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

They must realize Trump is succeeding despite all the attempts to take him down. Now they are trying to take down the stock market & all of Trump’s successes.


4 posted on 08/07/2017 10:50:36 AM PDT by gubamyster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

My first thought was who would build a fruit market on top of a volcano........


5 posted on 08/07/2017 10:50:46 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
James Woods said it best on Twitter (@realjameswoods) over the weekend:

"I've never witnessed such hatred for a man who is willing to work for free to make his beloved country a better place. It is pathological!"

6 posted on 08/07/2017 10:52:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I am out of the market. Not because I want to be, but because of two Obama recession layoffs.


7 posted on 08/07/2017 10:54:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

If these predictors had the courage of their convictions, they would be shorting the market. Talk is cheap.


8 posted on 08/07/2017 10:54:37 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave

Not everything is about politics.

I mean, unless you want it to be.


9 posted on 08/07/2017 10:57:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

P/E ratios and the market history is mere history and analysis of it

those that think pointing out facts about how historically high the average p/e is today has something to do with “bashing Trump.

but it has nothing to do with Trump, it’s just plain vanilla market analysis based on market history

I think it would have remained a more stable market if receipt growth in earnings did not see much rise in share prices, because I think “exuberant expectations” had already builtin that revenue up tick, and that same exuberance had already drive the p/e average into historically dangerous territory.


10 posted on 08/07/2017 11:00:26 AM PDT by Wuli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

I think not. Trump is supporting the slow rise in interest rates, and commodities will remain stable due to low price of oil.

There are some unreasonably priced stocks and they are always suspect.


11 posted on 08/07/2017 11:01:57 AM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
"...one out of two times] the market was down..."

So the odds are good that the market will either go up or down.

12 posted on 08/07/2017 11:05:45 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol

I got out because everything I touched turned to crap.
Gotta admire consistency, though.


13 posted on 08/07/2017 11:05:47 AM PDT by gymbeau (America...becoming great again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

“...about one out of three times it was down more than 10 percent,”

10 percent of what? I know the answer, 10% of the peak, but we don’t know the peak. How is this actionable advice?


14 posted on 08/07/2017 11:06:31 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gymbeau

if you ever start investing again, please be so kind as to tell us what you buy

:)


15 posted on 08/07/2017 11:12:24 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: gymbeau

If I might ask... when did you get out of the market?


16 posted on 08/07/2017 11:17:40 AM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Isn’t it peculiar they seem to be talking down the economy now but during Obama’s reign their wasn’t a peep. I think they’re trying to cause a self fulfilling prophecy.


17 posted on 08/07/2017 11:18:06 AM PDT by ProudDeplorable
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Isn’t it peculiar they seem to be talking down the economy now but during Obama’s reign their wasn’t a peep. I think they’re trying to cause a self fulfilling prophecy.


18 posted on 08/07/2017 11:18:12 AM PDT by ProudDeplorable
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
Economists have predicted 10 of the last 3 recessions.

Sooner or later, they'll be right.

19 posted on 08/07/2017 11:45:34 AM PDT by wbill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity

Nice. :-)


20 posted on 08/07/2017 11:50:03 AM PDT by gymbeau (America...becoming great again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson