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Time to Cut the F & E Lines
The American Thinker ^ | 5/26/2017 | John Conlin

Posted on 05/26/2017 7:29:01 AM PDT by John Conlin

One of the biggest gold rushes of our time looks to be the anticipated market for autonomous (self-driving) vehicles. Worldwide there are companies and investors throwing billions at the market and what was predicted to happen in 10 years now looks like 2 at most.

The ways autonomous vehicles will impact our daily lives are just now being contemplated but one impact is clear, they have the ability to completely change how we view public transportation, all for the better.

We need to rid ourselves of a bus and rail-based paradigm for public transportation. A complete stop should be placed on all new activities for a couple of years until the full impact of autonomous vehicles can be ascertained.

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1 posted on 05/26/2017 7:29:01 AM PDT by John Conlin
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I have to think that a lot of people now employed moving packages from point A to point B will need to find other work.


2 posted on 05/26/2017 7:36:09 AM PDT by pa_dweller (President Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. Because I know you like seeing it.)
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I’m all for a vehicle augmenting a drivers abilities at his descretion. I’m utterly against the government, car and info companies seizing driver autonomy.


3 posted on 05/26/2017 7:36:43 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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As a somewhat actualized, extremely independent minded person, I have absolutely no interest in self driving vehicles and would never consider owning owning or using one.
4 posted on 05/26/2017 7:37:11 AM PDT by suijuris
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Can I nudge one over?


5 posted on 05/26/2017 7:37:43 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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Autonomous vehicles are one of several transforming technologies.

Several things we need to do to preserve liberty with them.

Insure that the vehicles are not required to broadcast information to a network. We lost almost all privacy of location when the government mandated that all cell phones include GPS positioning data.

Insure that use of the vehicles is not prohibited to some people. It would be a way of punishing political enemies. People who have lost drivers licenses could still get around and work without being able to legally drive.

Insure the use of public vehicles does not require identification. Buses and other public transportation does not. Pre-paid cards should be available for cash, no ID required.


6 posted on 05/26/2017 7:38:38 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Theophilus

They’re big into this over in Europe. They’ve got lots of message board trolls yapping about how great this would be too. If the government is for it, then you gotta be against it.


7 posted on 05/26/2017 7:39:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Sadly that is coming... and it’s about 7.5 million folks who are involved in driving... buses, cabs, delivery, etc.


8 posted on 05/26/2017 7:42:37 AM PDT by John Conlin
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Someone was telling me a few days ago that people are going to stop buying cars and instead go with self-driven cars on demand/on call from Tesla, Uber, etc.

I told him that there may be a market for it, but there will always be a demand for independent freedom of movement provided by personally owned vehicles. People will only give up so much independence.


9 posted on 05/26/2017 7:45:53 AM PDT by reed13k
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You gotta love advancements in the auto industry.

It looks like the “designated driver” will be going the way of the “buggy whip”.


10 posted on 05/26/2017 7:49:10 AM PDT by moovova
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“As a somewhat actualized, extremely independent minded person, I have absolutely no interest in self driving vehicles and would never consider owning owning or using one. “

Same here.

But we must be forever vigilant. Governments and insurance companies worldwide will do their best to compel this and force human-driven vehicles off the roads for environmental and safety reasons.

First will be “public transportation” and freight. Then they’ll come after us.

Truck drivers and bus drivers and taxi drivers will be the first to go. Railroad engineers could be supplanted TODAY.


11 posted on 05/26/2017 8:01:41 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It will put our mobility totally at the sufferance of huge corporations and by only a little extension, by the government bureaucracy once man-driven vehicles are banned, which must happen to make the roads safer fr the Antmobiles. We will essentially have to have permission of a clerk or an algorithm to be able to go anywhere that we cannot reach on foot. It will facilitate the emptying of the countryside and allow the induced concentration of the population completely into the cities.


12 posted on 05/26/2017 8:06:09 AM PDT by arthurus
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At the very best, 'autonomous' driving will be nothing more than an enhanced cruise control. The driver will still need to be ready and able to take over control at a moment's notice, and many highway conditions, especially within construction zones, will be beyond even the best autonomously controlled vehicles.

Flying is much more tightly controlled, monitored, regulated, and maintained, yet nobody is suggesting that the pilot be removed from the aircraft. Why in the world does anyone think that the driver can be removed from the road vehicle?

13 posted on 05/26/2017 8:06:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: justrepublican

Just hack it out of the way.


14 posted on 05/26/2017 8:07:45 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: suijuris

You will not own them once they become universal. They will be “owned” by Corporations/Government and your mobility will be with their permission and following their plans. That with Single Payer “medicine” and the control of the population down to vagrants and prostitutes will be complete.


15 posted on 05/26/2017 8:10:08 AM PDT by arthurus
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Once these things become the rule those requirements, if enacted, will be totally illusory. If it can be controlled it will be controlled. Most if not all new cars now can be controlled by third parties. When the piloting of a vehicle is under third party control, and automatic driving must be subject to outside control, you have no command of a vehicle. Your instructions are only suggestions that will mostly be allowed.


16 posted on 05/26/2017 8:13:41 AM PDT by arthurus
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I’m curious how well these things work in snow.


17 posted on 05/26/2017 8:20:31 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Yo-Yo

Flying is much more tightly controlled, monitored, regulated, and maintained, yet nobody is suggesting that the pilot be removed from the aircraft. Why in the world does anyone think that the driver can be removed from the road vehicle?


A public relations problem, not a technology problem.

Actually, people are suggesting that there is a market for pilotless aircraft that transport people.

Uber is pushing for autonomous flying cars.

It is going to happen. The advantages are enormous.

The technology can be extremely liberating. It all depends on how we build the infrastructure. The basis for autonomous vehicles comes from DARPA competitions. Those military competitions required that the autonomous vehicles *not* require control from the outside; that they only rely on passive systems such as GPS.

The manhours saved alone mean that it will happen.

It would be like having a 24/7 chauffeur at your beck and call.


18 posted on 05/26/2017 8:25:02 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: reed13k

>>People will only give up so much independence.<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you wear your seat belt today?

Do smokers at your office have to go out onto the back 40?

Do you advise your kids to call an Uber after a single drink?

Would you ever make the horrible mistake of telling female co-worker you like her dress?

The times they are achangin’ (Sadly)


19 posted on 05/26/2017 8:31:13 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: arthurus; John Conlin
arthurus :" It will put our mobility totally at the sufferance of huge corporations and by.. government bureaucracy once man-driven vehicles are banned..
..It will facilitate the emptying of the countryside and allow the induced concentration of the population completely into the cities."

You are correct in your assessment.
Government and business control over freedom of movement will result in an increased demand for government services, which will result in increased taxes.
Cities and concentrations of population cannot sustain their nutrition and food needs by themselves,
which will increase the need for large corporate agri-bussiness farms which will then become increasingly more mechanized.
Food and seed production will then be controlled by energy needs and distribution systems by government and corporations; currently,an already fragile system exists.
The more urban a population, the more they relinquish personal freedom, and increase their dependence on other support systems.
This is the whole purpose of Agenda 21 and its derivatives.

20 posted on 05/26/2017 8:33:28 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu--> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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