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March 1857
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | March 1857

Posted on 03/01/2017 5:02:55 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

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1 posted on 03/01/2017 5:02:55 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Monthly Record of Current Events * – 2-6
Editor’s Drawer – 7-12
Fashions for February – 13-14

* Two new states coming into the union – Minnesota and Oregon. Arizona application to become a territory – Denied. Not enough people, among other reasons. U.S to enter into contract with Transatlantic Telegraph Company. “The Indian Appropriation Bill includes a sum of $700,000 for pacifying the natives in Oregon.” - “In the House, the Committee on Territories has reported a bill abrogating the laws passed by the Legislature of Kansas, and ordering a new election.”

“In the Senate the Republican vote has been greatly increased by the recent State elections. . . . The next Senate, it is estimated, will be composed of 37 Democrats, 20 Republicans, and 5 Americans.”

Governor Geary set forth, “in a long and elaborate message”, the state of affairs in Kansas.

“Mr. Preston S. Brooks, the assailant of Mr. Sumner in the Senate Chamber, died very suddenly at Washington, January 27, at the age of 37 years. He had been for some days confined to his room by a cold, but was apparently recovering, when he was attacked by croup, and expired almost before any serious danger was apprehended.”

“The vocabulary of crime, especially in New York, has been enriched by a new term descriptive of a new mode of robbery. It is performed by two or more, one of whom seizes the victim by the neck from behind, in such a manner as to strangle him and render him powerless, while the others proceed to rifle his pockets. This is styled garroting from its resemblance to the well-known Spanish mode of execution.”

The foregoing description is followed by a detailed account of the Burdell case, comprising more column inches than any other topic in the current events section.

2 posted on 03/01/2017 5:05:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Mr. Preston S. Brooks, the assailant of Mr. Sumner in the Senate Chamber, died very suddenly at Washington, January 27, at the age of 37 years.

Darn. Young guy like that, Zot. My son Vlad had croup a couple of times as a baby, but for an adult to be carried off by it is amazingly pre-modern.

3 posted on 03/01/2017 5:39:26 AM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

March 1857 was the last time a Democrat president saw his Democrat successor sworn into office.


4 posted on 03/01/2017 6:20:01 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
The portion about “late trouble” in Kansas nice euphemism for Bloody Kansas.
5 posted on 03/01/2017 6:57:39 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Let’s see. War in the Middle East, turmoil in the Far East, equal rights debate, comic celebrity and fashion. I guess after 150 years, the more things change, the more they stay the same.


6 posted on 03/01/2017 6:58:50 AM PST by buckalfa (I am deplorable.)
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To: C19fan

“Late” implies the trouble is in the past. That may be premature.


7 posted on 03/01/2017 7:02:18 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I noticed the update of Walker and his Filibusters getting their comeuppance in Nicaragua. Walker was a character trying to conquer various portions of Mexico and Central America. His antics fueled hopes among the slave holding elite in the South that Latin American offered fertile ground for expansion of the Slave Power.
8 posted on 03/01/2017 7:08:17 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Arizona application to become a territory – Denied. Not enough people, among other reasons.

A mistake that would have consequences for the next two generations. A territorial government might have been able to avoid the Bascom Affair and the Apache War that resulted from it--a war that was largely ignored at first because of the greater struggle looming in the nation.

Despite the efforts of people like Tom Jeffords and Cochise, it wasn't until 1886 and the capture of Geronimo that Arizona became "pacified." The Apaches, Hopi, and Navajo could probably have retained just as much, if not more land, without the Arizona war.

9 posted on 03/01/2017 7:28:52 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Wrongly decided as Justice Taney decided that due process must have the results with which he would agreeh. Thus, Taney's invention of the oxymoron "substantive due process", another Court-generated perversion of the Constitution.

The Supreme Court had no valid jurisdiction in this case since slavery was not a constitutional issue - until the 13A-15A, slavery was a states' issue - and Dred Scott had undergone due process in the Missouri Supreme Court.


10 posted on 03/01/2017 9:19:50 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

That $700,000 pacify the natives didn’t go too far. When my grandfather arrived in the U.S. from Macedonia in 1906, his first job was working on a railway crew in Oregon. They had cavalry escorts to keep the marauding Indians away. A couple times the crew had to take cover during a firefight. He shared this story with me when I was eight years old between matches of Championship Wrestling on Channel 4 and extoling the virtues of socialism.


11 posted on 03/01/2017 8:20:17 PM PST by henkster
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To: Jim 0216

Taney did not invent the concept of Substantive Due Process. It’s origins can go back to James Otis’ arguments in the Writs of Assistance Case in 1761 and to Justice Chase’s opinion in Calder v. Bull in 1798. However, Taney’s decision was the only example of it’s actual application to strike down a statute until the two cases of Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad v. City of Chicago and Allgeyer v. Louisiana in 1897. And it is something of a stretch to call Dred Scott a Substantive Due Process case. The idea that slaves were property subject to ownership was not novel and a relatively widely recognized property right at the time. Dred Scott was more of a straight up application of Constitutional construction in the line of Marbury v. Madison, Gibbons v. Ogden or McCulloch v. Maryland.


12 posted on 03/01/2017 8:35:31 PM PST by henkster
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; All

On March 4, 1857 President James Buchanan was inaugurated, taking the oath from Chief Justice Roger B. Taney. The Vice President was John C Breckinridge. Breckinridge would be elected to the US Senate in 1860, but then was expelled. He was also indicted for treason. Breckinridge was commissioned as a brigadier general in the Confederate Army on November 2, 1861.

Breckinridge was one of the commanders of the Orphan Brigade, also known as the 1st Kentucky Brigade.


13 posted on 03/03/2017 4:58:02 PM PST by rdl6989
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Continued from February 23 (reply #161).

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Don E. Fehrenbacher, The Dred Scott Case: Its Significance in American Law and Politics" (1978)

14 posted on 03/04/2017 5:27:30 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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This is the first excerpt from this book. You can read my book report on it from July 19 of last year (reply #47)

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William J. Cooper, Jr., Jefferson Davis, American

15 posted on 03/04/2017 5:32:33 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: rdl6989

Breckenridge being charged with Treason was his impetus for fleeing to Cuba at the end of the war.

Burke Davis wrote a great book called The Long Surrender which gives a good account of the flight south with many anecdotes of Breckenridge and Judah Benjamin travelling down into the Keys.


16 posted on 03/04/2017 6:30:49 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Meck library has it, but only as an e-book. I don’t want an e-book!


17 posted on 03/04/2017 7:37:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Reality does not go away when we close our eyes. It only disappears from our view.)
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To: Tax-chick

I met the author a his house back in the early 90’s where he signed a couple of books for me. Very nice elderly man.

We discussed a few things war related and I mentioned some other authors I had read. He piped in, “That’s why I stopped writing at the continental of the end of the war. Everybody and their brother was writing books then”.


18 posted on 03/04/2017 7:59:31 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

True, there are a lot of history writers. Some should not be writers!

Union County doesn’t have anything, either.


19 posted on 03/04/2017 8:16:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (Reality does not go away when we close our eyes. It only disappears from our view.)
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To: Rebelbase

I have that book.


20 posted on 03/04/2017 1:01:16 PM PST by rdl6989
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