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Chargers shouldn't look for a welcome wagon in L.A.
LA Times ^ | January 11, 2017 | Bill Plaschke

Posted on 01/12/2017 12:17:54 PM PST by C19fan

Eery relationship is built on honesty, so the San Diego Chargers should hear this as their moving vans are chugging up the 5 Freeway on their noble mission of greed.

We. Don’t. Want. You.

The news broke Wednesday that Chargers owner Dean Spanos has informed NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell he is moving the team to Los Angeles, which is pretty much dreadful news for Los Angeles.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: chargers; football; la; losangeles; losangeleschargers; nfl; sandiego; sandiegochargers; sports
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To: C19fan
I have a feeling unless the LA Rams bring in Nick Saban the loaded USC Trojans might be the biggest football draw for the 2017 season.

Saban's tenure with the Dolphins was a disaster.

41 posted on 01/12/2017 12:51:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dainbramaged
The Houston Rockets of the NBA used to be the San Diego Rockets, from 1967 to 1971.

The Clippers also moved from San Diego to LA. (and before that, they were the Buffalo Braves).

42 posted on 01/12/2017 12:52:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: NohSpinZone
Makes no sense. Spanos has to fork over $650 million for the “privilege” of playing second fiddle to the Rams and a tenant in their new stadium. Surely he could have used that money for a downtown stadium next to PetCo a la Seattle or even Detroit.

I'm not sure how this works, but I wonder if he actually has to pay the $650M, or they deduct it from his TV revenue payments, over ten years or so. Could be that they have good equity, but not enough cash flow to build a stadium, which would have to be mortgaged, and you know that payment wouldn't be cheap.

43 posted on 01/12/2017 12:56:47 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Alberta's Child

I have season tix to the Kings. Talked to someone who was there when Gretzky moved in, and they already had a fan base but it was small and considered “fringe”. There is no way that hockey will fail in L.A. especially with the large Russian fanbase LOl


44 posted on 01/12/2017 12:57:30 PM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: Hieronymus
As soon as I saw Nate Silver's name as the author of that article, I figured it was going to have a lot of flaws. He does a good job posting numbers and comparing teams and markets, but he overlooks some of the realities of NHL teams and the modern age of big-money sports.

1. Taxes are generally much higher in Canada, so most Canadian teams can't really bid for free agents on equal terms with their U.S. counterparts. This came up last year when elite goal-scorer Steve Stamkos re-signed with the Tampa Bay Lightning for less than he could have gotten on the open market. The fact that Florida has no income tax was a major factor in his decision.

2. Hockey may be a popular sport in Canada, but a lot of their players simply prefer to live in warmer climates in the winter.

3. Canada has the same problem with "hockey oversaturation" that has been an obstacle for success for NHL teams in Minnesota over the years. There are so many people who play hockey and eat/sleep/breathe hockey, and so many different teams at various levels from mites up to juniors and collegiate level, that few fans are willing to pay for overpriced NHL tickets. The Minnesota North Stars couldn't draw crowds in the Twin Cities area before they moved to Dallas, and yet the same arena where the North Stars played would be packed to the roof every day for 10-14 days for the state high school hockey tournament every spring.

45 posted on 01/12/2017 12:57:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Hieronymus

Vegas will be one of those places where there will be more people cheering the visiting team than the home team for their home games.


46 posted on 01/12/2017 1:00:01 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I remember Bob McAdoo dropping 50+ points for the Buffalo Braves while I was shooting pool in a dark smoky bar way back when...


47 posted on 01/12/2017 1:00:15 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Right. Ten million fans, and even NASCAR took one of its dates away from California Speedway!


48 posted on 01/12/2017 1:03:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: C19fan

Chargers have been more successful the last decade than the Rams. They might actually draw more fans. And using the Ravens example kind of shows the writer is wrong. Yeah Modell was hated in Cleveland, but the Baltimore fans loved him. Success on the field salves all wounds, if the Chargers actually go from middling to good they’ll find an audience.


49 posted on 01/12/2017 1:07:41 PM PST by discostu (Alright you primative screwheads, listen up!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Certainly, he has flaws and could use some geography lessons (in one article, I’m not sure if it is this one, he suggests a Thunder Bay-Sudbury team, which wouldn’t work even when the roads aren’t icy), but for all that says a great deal worth thinking about.

One other thing that he misses is that a Canadian team from no where Americans have hear of might serve to reduce the prestige of the NHL as a whole.


50 posted on 01/12/2017 1:08:08 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Trump20162020
So what does San Diego even have for a professional sports team anymore? The Padres?

They have the Navy Seals.

51 posted on 01/12/2017 1:12:03 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Dr. Sivana

But some times it does: Jimmy Johnson and Dick Vermeil come to mind....


52 posted on 01/12/2017 1:27:20 PM PST by major_gaff (University of Parris Island, Class of '84)
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To: Hieronymus
Certainly, he has flaws and could use some geography lessons (in one article, I’m not sure if it is this one, he suggests a Thunder Bay-Sudbury team, which wouldn’t work even when the roads aren’t icy), but for all that says a great deal worth thinking about.

I don't know if he's a hockey fan, but I suspect he bases a lot of his recommendations just on his analysis of various statistical measures. Along those lines I can tell you where this idea probably came from: I believe there are more players in the NHL today from Thunder Bay, Ontario than from any other city in the world. Go figure.

One other thing that he misses is that a Canadian team from no where Americans have hear of might serve to reduce the prestige of the NHL as a whole.

That's exactly why the NHL rejected Saskatoon's two bids for an NHL team in the late 1980s: first as part of a purchase and relocation of the St. Louis Blues, then as an expansion bid. Someone on the NHL's Board of Governors said he could never wrap his mind around the image of a game at Madison Square Garden, with the words "Rangers vs. Saskatoon" on the marquee lights outside in Manhattan.

53 posted on 01/12/2017 1:29:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Dr. Sivana

Don Coryell wasn’t bad though, and his college staff included John Madden and Joe Gibbs.


54 posted on 01/12/2017 1:32:33 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I heard an interesting report on a sports radio show earlier this week. The guy who was being interviewed said the NFL is facing a growing problem with a lack of talent at the head coaching position ... and a lot of it is being driven by NFL coaches finding better deals and better working conditions in the college ranks.


55 posted on 01/12/2017 1:32:34 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: ArmstedFragg
Don Coryell wasn’t bad though, and his college staff included John Madden and Joe Gibbs.

We are going back a few years now! I'll counter that with Bud Wilkerson with the St. Louis Cardinals.
56 posted on 01/12/2017 1:40:49 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That makes sense to me. Although, the recruiting aspect of college football can be a drain, for those who strictly want to stick to the coaching part.


57 posted on 01/12/2017 1:44:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yeah, age showing. I posted, then remembered that was 50 years ago. Seems like yesterday. Well, maybe not yesterday....


58 posted on 01/12/2017 1:44:17 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: dfwgator

I think what’s happened is that the annual process of breaking down and rebuilding NFL rosters in this age of salary caps and loose free agency rules has now made the NFL coach’s job just as stressful in that regard as what college coaches have been dealing with for years.


59 posted on 01/12/2017 1:46:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Well normally that’s the GM’s job.


60 posted on 01/12/2017 1:48:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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