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Don’t repeal ACA without a plan to immediately replace it (Editorial column, from the Miami Herald)
Miami Herald ^ | December 26, 2016 | By MIRIAM HARMATZ

Posted on 12/30/2016 8:19:22 AM PST by cba123

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To: cba123
BS repeal it NOW!!!! Totally....NOW I say!!!
21 posted on 12/30/2016 8:44:50 AM PST by mastertex
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To: cba123
But until they do, they need to do something about those who are not covered

Then please explain why Medicaid wasn't or isn't enough for these 'uncovered' people.

The FACT is that decriers of Medicaid are pissed that assets are a factor of coverage and that a covered person's assets are seized beyond a certain limit to cover Medicaid costs. The main bugaboo about Medicaid is that inheritors can lose the assets of the deceased who had to use Medicaid.

22 posted on 12/30/2016 8:45:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: cba123

I don’t see how it could be repealed without replacing. Employers cut back hours to 30 per week so benefits such as health would no longer be offered. Employees were forced to sign up in the marketplace and use government subsidies. Premiums have skyrocketed over the years. If ACA vanished, what would happen to the millions who could no longer afford the premiums.


23 posted on 12/30/2016 8:46:43 AM PST by mouse1
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To: cba123

Not replacing it IS a proper replacement.

In fact, the bulk of so-called “progressivism” at the federal level, from FDR to the present day, needs to be repealed without replacement.


24 posted on 12/30/2016 8:48:24 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: cba123

Anyone remember the CATASTROPHIC HEALTH CARE passed back around 1988? It was repealed with no replacement, if I remember correctly.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/09/us/retreat-congress-catastrophic-care-debacle-special-report-new-medicare-law-fell.html?pagewanted=all


25 posted on 12/30/2016 8:48:59 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: lurk

Cut them off and shoot any rioters....


26 posted on 12/30/2016 8:49:08 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: rockrr
... if I had to do something it would be the elimination of constraints of insurance companies to compete for business in other states.

For one thing, that would be the one measure that would absolutely fail under any Constitutional scrutiny. Insurance is regulated at the state level, and the U.S. Supreme Court has reaffirmed this by ruling that an insurance policy is a financial contract and therefore does not fit any definition of "interstate commerce" that would call for Federal oversight.

Secondly, insurance companies can already compete for business across state lines. How many states don't have a Blue Cross/Blue Shield affiliate, for example?

27 posted on 12/30/2016 8:49:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: cba123

Why?

The left is perfectly fine with ending fossil fuel use without a replacement.

You don’t like something, you end it.

Real damn simple.


28 posted on 12/30/2016 8:50:55 AM PST by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: cba123

I AM for flat-out repeal.

Let Americans and doctors themselves figure out a way to supply and deliver health care

ITS CALLED THE FREE MARKET. and it works


29 posted on 12/30/2016 8:51:30 AM PST by PGR88
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To: mouse1
If ACA vanished, what would happen to the millions who could no longer afford the premiums.

Is that supposed to be a trick question? LOL.

The answer is: The same thing that happened to people who were no longer able to afford the premiums as a result of the ACA.

30 posted on 12/30/2016 8:51:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: cba123

Go away commie.


31 posted on 12/30/2016 8:52:24 AM PST by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Secondly, insurance companies can already compete for business across state lines.

Problem solved!

32 posted on 12/30/2016 8:54:05 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: cba123

What influence should any outlet of the Democrat media have on Pres. Trump? They are all disappointed Hillary supporters who will complain about any reforms he makes. Americans voted for Trump to repeal and replace the Obamacare debacle, and they have confidence that he will do a better job than the feckless Obama did.


33 posted on 12/30/2016 8:54:42 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: PGR88

I think the only people who thing that anymore, are in the medical businesses.

Nobody else believes that anymore.

American healthcare is outrageously expensive.

And far, far, far too many, are not covered.

It is a huge, expensive, boondoggle.

Just my opinion.


34 posted on 12/30/2016 8:55:24 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

I don’t think this is true. What the insurance company does not cover is the pre existing condition, not the individual. This is true of any valid insurance. You can’t insure against something that has already happened.


35 posted on 12/30/2016 8:55:58 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: rockrr
Right. LOL.

One important point here is that individual states have their own regulatory requirements for insurance. This is why BC/BS, for example, has to set up separate affiliates in each state where they do business. Different states have different requirements for an insurance carrier's asset base and reserves, insurance agents' certifications, etc. Even if all of these distinctions were eliminated and there was a single national standard for all of these things, I can't see it resulting in anything more than a small cost savings.

36 posted on 12/30/2016 8:57:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: cba123

There is no magic government tinkering or software which will “fix’ healthcare.

It is expensive and complicated precisely because of 7 decades of ever-increasing government tinkering.

You used the heroin addiction metaphor - it is apt. Americans are used to a hairball system of others paying bills for them, while suppliers are used to massive government support.

At some point, the addition must be stopped. I prefer to see it immediately, before the addict dies.


37 posted on 12/30/2016 8:58:16 AM PST by PGR88
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To: cba123

Anyone who thinks he’s going to pull the rug out from under everyone and leave folks dying in the streets is either nuts or just trying to scare folks. None of hie agenda entails blindly flailing instead of being logically phased. getting rid of the illegals who are also felons will be the closest he comes to using a machete.


38 posted on 12/30/2016 9:00:11 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: cba123

The sad thing about this is that they could have simply expanded the “OLD” PCIP plan to cover all 50 states. That and to prevent states from preventing outside markets to compete.

That old plan was a high risk pool where they offered insurance to those who were refused insurance because of pre existing conditions. It would have cost myself 134 bucks a month for it and it had a 1300 dollar deductable and 80/20 till 10 grand and then 100% after that.

BUT NOOOOOO! They had a better idea! Eff it all up and destroy the system so they could go to single payer. That way they can decide who is to die and who is to live. Much like NAZI germany did, and is much like the NHS in the UK.


39 posted on 12/30/2016 9:01:18 AM PST by crz
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American healthcare is outrageously expensive. And far, far, far too many, are not covered.

Do you not see the irony of these two statements?

The single biggest reason why "American healthcare" is so expensive is that third-party payments have become the standard method of financing it. This is the exact same reason why "American education" is so expensive, too.

The things in America that have gotten less expensive over time include 99% of the things Americans purchase regularly with money from their own pockets. I could even include some medical procedures among these things ... like Lasik eye surgery and cosmetic surgery. Do you know why these things have gotten CHEAPER over time, even as "American healthcare" has gotten so expensive? It's because insurance policies don't cover these procedures, which means Americans who buy these services tend to be smart, pragmatic consumers.

40 posted on 12/30/2016 9:03:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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