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Don’t repeal ACA without a plan to immediately replace it (Editorial column, from the Miami Herald)
Miami Herald ^ | December 26, 2016 | By MIRIAM HARMATZ

Posted on 12/30/2016 8:19:22 AM PST by cba123

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To: Alberta's Child

Bingo!


61 posted on 12/30/2016 10:34:36 AM PST by rb22982
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To: cba123
Because there are millions of Americans, who WERE NOT COVERED previously, because insurance companies will not cover those with any pre-existing conditions. That means, you get sick, and later lose your job, you are royally scr*wed.

Sorry, I just looked, and couldn't find anything in the U.S. Constitution concerning healthcare.

Apparently, people 200 years ago - or even as little as 50 years ago - didn't think that this was the government's responsibility, or that the government could do a better job than the individual.

Regards,

62 posted on 12/30/2016 10:34:48 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Alberta's Child

My experience (41 years in a few weeks) is that the state in which the policy was purchased has jurisdiction, because that state’s insurance commission theoretically protects consumers in that state, and granted the insurance carrier the right to sell to people in that state (in your example, Nebraska).


63 posted on 12/30/2016 10:36:53 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: semimojo

Why couldn’t the rate of of insurance be the same? The cost of medicine is the same. The only difference is operating costs between states. At that point, selling across state lines would minimize operating costs because the insurance company wouldn’t need to staff a full operations center in each state to sell insurance there.


64 posted on 12/30/2016 10:40:58 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: cba123

Who writes this crap? Did these morons ever hear of Tom Price? I mean they all hate him because he is a conservative so they hate him of course but don’t they know why they hate him?


65 posted on 12/30/2016 10:46:15 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: cba123

Yeah, yeah, Cringing Negativity Network. We’ve seen your OCD schtick before. Give it a rest.


66 posted on 12/30/2016 10:49:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP LIED TO ME!!!! ....He said I'd get sick of winning.... AND I'M NOT SICK OF WINNING YET!!!!)
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To: cba123

One big reason why the Dems wanted Obamacare passed, and for it to cover preexisting conditions : over 20% of the homosexual male population now is HIV positive. The percentage is significantly higher in urban areas.

The cost of treatment? $36K per year, for life.

http://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/monthly-cost-treating-hiv


67 posted on 12/30/2016 10:52:41 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PJBankard
Why couldn’t the rate of of insurance be the same? The cost of medicine is the same.

No it isn't. Not by a long shot.

...selling across state lines would minimize operating costs because the insurance company wouldn’t need to staff a full operations center in each state to sell insurance there.

They don't staff full operations centers in each state.

I know for a fact that Anthem consolidates IT operations, call centers, claims processing operations, etc. across all of the Blue plans it operates. Some states may require some in-state support but not the back office stuff.

I'm positive it's the same for United Healthcare, Cigna, Aetna, and all of the other large carriers.

The only state-specific operations are those needed to support network development and management, state compliance, and in some cases some aspects of customer support.

68 posted on 12/30/2016 10:55:48 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Jim Noble

Get them out of paying 70% of the bills. They should be paying 0%.


69 posted on 12/30/2016 10:58:28 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dware

HEY!! Who said you could use well-informed, thoughtful reasoning on an FR thread about health insurance? This is nearly unprecedented! P.S. You are right, except it would take longer than two years (many blue-ish states will drag their feet on any changes).


70 posted on 12/30/2016 11:03:01 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: cba123

Allow people to keep their group plans if they leave their job and make it tax deductible just like businesses and self employed. It’s an easy fix. Ideally I’d like to see it separated from employment completely but that’s a much bigger change that would be a tough sell. For now give the option to go independent of employers and see where things sit a few years down the road. Imagine a business community not saddled with massive insurance and HR management costs. We’d be so much more competitive and insurance would be free market and cheaper with greater access.


71 posted on 12/30/2016 11:09:36 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: cba123

Repeal the mandate. Private insurance. Each state has a high-risk pool for preexisting conditions separate from the private insurance pool.


72 posted on 12/30/2016 11:10:32 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: PJBankard

Maybe so, but I suspect those are a very small portion of the cost of health care delivery in the U.S.


73 posted on 12/30/2016 11:18:29 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Each state has a high-risk pool for preexisting conditions separate from the private insurance pool.

I've gone back and forth on this concept.

Basically you're just shifting the cost from the pool of those with insurance to the general taxpayer. I can see arguments in favor of both.

74 posted on 12/30/2016 11:24:42 AM PST by semimojo
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To: steve86
You are right, except it would take longer than two years (many blue-ish states will drag their feet on any changes).

Yep. I think it'll take longer than 2 years too, however, 2 years would, if all entities worked as they should, be the very minimum length it would take, in a perfect world.

75 posted on 12/30/2016 11:25:11 AM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President-elect Trump!)
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To: ilgipper
Allow people to keep their group plans if they leave their job and make it tax deductible just like businesses and self employed.

They have that now with COBRA although it is only for 18 mos and rather expensive. At my age, it would be cheaper to go with a gold COBRA plan than a crappy bronze plan if I had to pay full fare.

A portability option seems interesting, but would people pay extra for that option?

76 posted on 12/30/2016 12:10:45 PM PST by EVO X
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To: semimojo

It’s not insurance if you let people buy it after they have the accident.

Insurance should be insurance. Entitlements should be entitlements.


77 posted on 12/30/2016 12:39:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It’s not insurance if you let people buy it after they have the accident.

True.

The problem under our system is that you can have insurance, have an "accident", and from that point forward you can't buy insurance again.

78 posted on 12/30/2016 1:30:50 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Rules and regulations can be fixed.

“Insurance” that does not use rational underwriting standards cannot.


79 posted on 12/30/2016 2:19:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: rockrr
elimination of constraints of insurance companies to compete for business in other states

The problem isn't based in insurance. It's that the doc's and hospitals and pharmacies charge too damn much. MRIs are $1000 here, and $100 in Japan. And, in the veterinary field, which is relatively unregulated compared to human doc/hospitals, it's about $100 too.

Karl Denninger has a bunch of posts on this at market-ticker.org. We are overcharged for everything. Eliminate the medical monopolies, require fair and published pricing, and the costs will drop.

Insurance companies aren't angels, they are involved in the high priced scamming of the customer too. But it is secondary to the medical industry overcharges.

80 posted on 12/30/2016 3:11:21 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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