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Don’t repeal ACA without a plan to immediately replace it (Editorial column, from the Miami Herald)
Miami Herald ^ | December 26, 2016 | By MIRIAM HARMATZ

Posted on 12/30/2016 8:19:22 AM PST by cba123

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To: trebb

Actually I do trust Trump on this topic.

I do NOT trust the GOP. For the very reason all of them are for sale. As are the entire democrat party. Everyone is sold out.

Trump is however, not sold out, the same way. That is why, in my opinion he was elected. He is a renewal of what was once the GOP, before it became a sold-out nothing standing up never.

Go Trump. :D


41 posted on 12/30/2016 9:03:49 AM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

The first thing to do is repeal the Miami Herald.


42 posted on 12/30/2016 9:04:30 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: dinodino
Why do you insist on having the Federal Government involved in our healthcare?

25% of the Federal budget goes to healthcare. Almost $1T.

Like it or not the Feds are and will remain involved, so we all better hope they manage that involvement.

43 posted on 12/30/2016 9:07:30 AM PST by semimojo
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To: precisionshootist
I don’t think this is true. What the insurance company does not cover is the pre existing condition, not the individual.

Actually, while I can't attest to the number of people who were denied coverage I know there were many.

Every insurer which offered individual plans in my market denied me coverage due to a pre-existing condition.

They didn't just exclude coverage related to the condition - they flat out refused to write a policy at any price.

44 posted on 12/30/2016 9:18:33 AM PST by semimojo
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To: dinodino; cba123
Why do you insist on having the Federal Government involved in our healthcare?

Exactly. Their track record shows they are never even in the race.

45 posted on 12/30/2016 9:20:26 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: cba123

Democrats won’t come to the table to pass a replacement till the ACA is nuked and end dated.

They should set the date 6-8 months out. Then dems will come to the table.


46 posted on 12/30/2016 9:35:22 AM PST by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: crz
They can repeal this piece of s*&t fully and implement a free market plan and nobody will notice anything.

No, no they can't. At least not overnight. It WILL indeed take AT LEAST 2 years to transition into the replacement. There is more to it than Congress repealing. Once repealed, insurance carriers must then re-work their entire slate of plans (which takes time & $$$), then submit those new plans to the state insurance commission (who approves ALL rate hikes, plans, etc), wait for approval, make changes where approval will not come, and all that nice, bureaucratic BS. Then, and only then, will the plans be prepped to go into effect the following year.

Anyone begging for an over night solution is begging for a single payer system.

47 posted on 12/30/2016 9:36:38 AM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President-elect Trump!)
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To: cba123

Agreed - I wasn’t aiming my comment at you, but at the author of the article. I absolutely trust Trump at this juncture.


48 posted on 12/30/2016 9:38:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What GOP? Oh, the GOP that just yesterday said that Obamas sanctions against Russia were long overdue?! That GOP?!


49 posted on 12/30/2016 9:39:05 AM PST by uncitizen (Get obama out before he starts WW3)
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To: Alberta's Child

I am not sure about why it would not be constitutional for health insurers to compete across state lines. Life insurance companies do it all of the time, as do disability insurance and long-term care insurance companies. Some do have special products for New York, for example, due to excessive regulation there. Why couldn’t health insurance carriers have some regionalized-pricing in their products? (Not something that is BC/BS for each state, etc.).


50 posted on 12/30/2016 9:41:30 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF
There's nothing unconstitutional about health insurers competing across state lines. It would, however, be unconstitutional for insurers to compete across state lines under Federal regulatory oversight -- and certainly under Federal mandates. I suspect the cases you describe for life, disability and long-term care insurance companies are done under one or both of these two scenarios:

1. The states in question have regulations for these policies that are so similar that they can be served across state lines, probably even with cross-acceptance of certifications/licenses for insurance brokers.

2. The states have agreements between their insurance commissions documenting the terms under which these interstate insurance carriers operate.

I suspect the biggest question for these carriers involves legal disputes. If I live in Nebraska and I buy a life insurance policy from a company located in Texas, which insurance commission and/or state courts would have the jurisdiction to adjudicate a formal/legal complaint if one arises?

51 posted on 12/30/2016 9:55:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child
Secondly, insurance companies can already compete for business across state lines. How many states don't have a Blue Cross/Blue Shield affiliate, for example?

No they can't. BC/BS is in every state because the company has setup the legal operations for selling in each of the states. As well, BC/BS is also regionalized. The costs of Anthem BC/BS are different that those of CareFirst BC/BS, even though it is all BC/BS.
52 posted on 12/30/2016 9:58:28 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: PJBankard
Right. So what?

I'm a licensed professional who can legally work in any U.S. state (and in some international jurisdictions as well). I have to secure a professional license in each jurisdiction where I do business, though -- and some are easier to get than others.

53 posted on 12/30/2016 10:04:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: dinodino
Why do you insist on having the Federal Government involved in our healthcare

Because they pay 70% of the bills, one way or another, and since it's taxpayer money, their representatives should have a say in how it's spent.

54 posted on 12/30/2016 10:06:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: PJBankard
The costs of Anthem BC/BS are different that those of CareFirst BC/BS, even though it is all BC/BS.

That's because everyone's costs vary by state and region.

Anthem operates BC/BS plans in 14 states. It's true that each region may have it's own legal entity, but they're clearly operating across state lines.

The reality is that insurance companies have to develop networks in each state/region, and the rates for Anthem in Indiana may be very different than for Anthem in CA.

Insurance companies being able to compete across state lines won't really change much as long as the providers remain local or regional.

55 posted on 12/30/2016 10:11:54 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Alberta's Child

The issue is the cost of setting up shop in each state. Allowing the selling across state lines without the need to setup a full operations center in each state would reduce operating costs for insurance companies. This would also allow for serious competition and cause prices to drop as those with smaller costs could effectively sell insurance at lower rates.


56 posted on 12/30/2016 10:13:53 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: Gaffer; cba123
That patently is not a requirement of our Constitution - it is a bastardized claim perpetrated on us by liberals

Medicare caused the collapse of the private sector - not as fast as LBJ and Wilbur Mills thought it would, but after 1986, Medicare was living on borrowed or printed money.

Obamacare, or something like it, was inevitable, GIVEN THAT our national debt was out of control, and there was no way to pay Medicare fees without borrowing or printing money.

What the Democrats did not foresee in 1964-65 was that the promise to pay, without limit, for any "necessary" health products and services would change the definition of "necessary" to "useful or potentially useful", and the river of money flowing from that promise would erect entire new industries and many useful inventions.

Renal dialysis, for one thing, would not exist without Federal payment guarantees. Joint replacements, cataract surgery, implantable defibrillators, minimally-invasive open heart surgery, most cancer chemotherapy, nearly all targeted radiation therapy, and many other things exist only because of Medicare's promise to pay without limit.

57 posted on 12/30/2016 10:20:38 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: semimojo

They aren’t operating across state lines. The company has operations in each of those 14 states. It offers the same coverage plans in all 14 of those states and only those 14 states. It is the appearance of selling across state lines, but it is not. True selling across state lines would me being able to buy an Anthem BC/BS plan and live in a state other than the 14 it is setup in.


58 posted on 12/30/2016 10:21:00 AM PST by PJBankard
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To: Alberta's Child
What exactly is gained under these conditions?

Nationalization.

59 posted on 12/30/2016 10:21:27 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: PJBankard
True selling across state lines would me being able to buy an Anthem BC/BS plan and live in a state other than the 14 it is setup in.

Right, but in that scenario what would their network look like? Why would they have a network in your state if they didn't operate there? Would there be one big network with the rates being the same in every state?

That would make them uncompetitive in the lower cost states.

They're still going to have to recruit and manage providers within each region so I fail to see how this would change much of anything.

60 posted on 12/30/2016 10:34:20 AM PST by semimojo
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