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VANITY: Great Lakes History
HistorySeeLink ^ | 10NOV2015 | VANITY of Cletus

Posted on 11/10/2015 5:31:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel

40 years ago, a few hours after sunset...

The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril. And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.


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KEYWORDS: edmundfitzgerald; gordonlightfoot; lakerhistory; ssedmundfitzgerald
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In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed, in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral." The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

They still do, today. I've attended 2 of these memorials over the years

1 posted on 11/10/2015 5:31:14 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

/sniff

Remembering my late father - VMF 313, USN

https://youtu.be/4Iu8y2pvuRg

Naval Hymn - USNA


2 posted on 11/10/2015 5:39:25 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
3 posted on 11/10/2015 5:41:06 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

A favorite song and memorable event.

We have a lithograph of the Fitz hanging on our living room wall even though we now live one mile from the Chesapeake Bay.

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2963351_jim-clary-lithograph-edmund-fitzgerald-342

That’s a link to an auction site that was selling a copy of the same painting. It’s pretty haunting. The artists image is as the Fitz is being carried up between two rogue waves and ready to crack in half.


4 posted on 11/10/2015 5:58:06 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Heard that song on the radio a couple of weeks ago.

Still as haunting as it was then.

5 posted on 11/10/2015 5:58:09 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Tonight http://boatnerd.com will do a live webcast

Lost Mariners Remembrance
November 10 2015 |
6:00pm to 8:00pm
Watch the live webcast at boatnerd.com! This annual program remembering lost mariners of the Great Lakes will feature renowned...

>more<

Starting at 6:20 p.m. the Lost Mariners Remembrance webcast will be streamed from the Dossin museum starting with a concert by Lee Murdock followed by a program featuring renowned marine artist Robert McGreevy tells the story of the brave lifesaving crews who patrolled the Great Lakes.

Visit http://detroithistorical.org/dossin-great-lakes-museum/events-calendar/events-listing


6 posted on 11/10/2015 6:16:41 AM PST by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Bookmark


7 posted on 11/10/2015 6:49:32 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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For later.


8 posted on 11/10/2015 6:51:34 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with ptfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; Maine Mariner

It is worth noting we had a similar event with over 20 dead from a U.S. crewed ship in the Bahamas this year. Maine Mariner knew at least one of them.


9 posted on 11/10/2015 6:55:39 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: cyclotic

The rogue waves is probably the most likely cause of the event. The ship was fully loaded with iron ore pellets and a wave at the bow and a wave at the stern lifted the ship up and she broke in two. Also, I believe the Fitzgerald had been lengthen and that might have caused a weakness in the hull.

However, there are two other theories about the sinking:
first, after the sinking new soundings were taken of the bottom. The water was not as deep as previous thought and it is possible that with the storm the Fitzgerald scraped the bottom of the lake and torn its bottom out. Second, the hatches were not properly secured and water leaked in or the vents to the cargo holes took on water.

I have spoken to several now retired Coast Guard officers who were involved in the investigation. They don’t know for sure what the cause was.


10 posted on 11/10/2015 7:21:47 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner

Also, a few years ago, Gordon Lightfoot changed some lyrics when they found the main hatchway did not give in.

I met a guy once who dove the wreck. He thinks some of the hatch bolts weren’t tightened all the way and water came in to the hold, making the ship heavier and harder to control.


11 posted on 11/10/2015 7:27:42 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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That ship, El Faro was one of the first ships I saw when I moved to Baltimore area. It moored in the harbor for months. I assume it was being refitted.

It’s pretty eerie. Every time I drive by the harbor, I expect to see El Faro at the dock.

I don’t know that I ever saw the Big Fitz, but when I lived in Michigan, I loved to watch the Freighters go bye.

I still remember being able to identify the William Clay Ford by the distinctive engine noise.


12 posted on 11/10/2015 7:32:07 AM PST by cyclotic (Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
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To: cyclotic

We were in Duluth visiting friends a few years ago, and I got to see an ore freighter go under the lift bridge into the harbor. It was pretty cool. Went to the maritime museum, where there is a large diorama of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.


13 posted on 11/10/2015 7:38:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Lets get historical.

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14 posted on 11/10/2015 9:12:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

The other Fitzgerald thread today:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3358416/posts


15 posted on 11/10/2015 9:17:43 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: cripplecreek

From my recollection, the memorial service begins at sunrise tomorrow.

170 E Jefferson Ave, Detroit, MI

Corner of Jefferson and Randolph; walking distance of RenCen and “The Joe”. Still, the most vibrant part (relatively) of downtown Detroit.


16 posted on 11/10/2015 9:23:00 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: prisoner6
Lost Mariners Remembrance
November 10 2015
6:00pm to 8:00pm

Watch the live webcast at boatnerd.com! This annual program remembering lost mariners of the Great Lakes will feature renowned...

Please excuse this foreigner, but what time zone would that be?

17 posted on 11/10/2015 9:30:40 AM PST by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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To: cyclotic

That seems to me to be the most likely cause.
However, anytime you cut a ship in half and add an extension, the hull weakens.


18 posted on 11/10/2015 9:37:28 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: publius911

Oh, NO PROBLEM! Having worked steady overnights for 20 years I often get confused about time/days, LOL! Now being retired it’s worse!

Since Detroit is in the Eastern Time Zone it would be 6pm Eastern.


19 posted on 11/10/2015 9:38:19 AM PST by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: prisoner6

Thank you.
3pm to 5 pm PST


20 posted on 11/10/2015 9:56:43 AM PST by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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