Posted on 10/26/2015 7:03:48 AM PDT by conservativejoy
The fundamental problem is the federal government’s involvement in education. Whenever the government is transferring money to anyone, it does so with certain goals in mind. Those goals are often self-serving and promote a particular point of view or desired outcome. That’s what makes it particularly insidious.
Forget for a minute that he said that the Department of Education should be involved in this. What if he’d said the IRS should investigate whether these schools deserve to keep their tax-exempt status. Would that make it feel like a better idea? Because that’s what happens to churches ALL. THE. TIME. Someone complains to the IRS that so-and-so said something political at a church, and the IRS promptly investigates (assuming the church is Christian) and then seeks to deny tax-exempt status. But public schools shouldn’t be subject to the same rules?
Free Speech does not mean the Goverment is required to pay you to proagandize.
Really this stupid? Think you are just entailed to unlimited amounts of Federal Dollars no matter how badly you misuse that money?
NO. I wouldn’t advocate federal funding at all.
As for pre college education, control should be at the local level, without a Dept. of Education setting standards and curriculum.
I post articles on all the candidates. Some of you are very thin skinned and defensive when facts are posted about your candidate that you don’t like.
Free Speech does not mean the Government is required to pay you to propagandize.
Really this stupid? Think you are just entailed to unlimited amounts of Federal Dollars no matter how badly you misuse that money?
Not stupid. Just want to win. If this idea is out there for the general, he will get it rammed down his throat.
Federal enforcement of proper speech from the right is not a winning idea.
Yes, but I would prefer for the marketplace to make those calls - not government, and certainly not a batch of spoiled college kids who might want to use such a mechanism to slander a prof. because they got a bad grade. Choosing other colleges and other classes would be the actual conservative approach here; setting up a network of snitches is the Communist/Obama method.
There's just way too many things wrong with Carson's proposal. Today it's about 'extreme' political views. Tomorrow it's about those opposing gay marriage (and 'tomorrow' has already arrived, btw). You get the idea.
I already didn't like his ideas on immigration... this is just a reason to look elsewhere for a candidate... and that's again letting the marketplace rule.
or anything other than liberal orthodoxy...it’s why Ann Coulter gets pie in the face, conservative speakers are cancelled soon after their lectures are announced, and anything related to guns or Christianity is verbotten.
But hey, can’t go messing with those first amendment rights!
Would you trust the Department of Education to be the ones monitoring it?
It is people like you that give the GOP the name “The stupid party.
You advocate that the DOE be tasked with conducting witch hunts based on anonymous student complaints and I'm the stupid one?
But, having to limit your use of your 1st Amendment Rights to specific “Free Speech ‘ZONES’” and typically at specific TIMES, while on college campuses apparently ISN’T a violation of Free Speech, huh Up Chuck Todd?!?!?
I don’t think colleges should be funded at the federal level. Do away with the Dept. of Education. Leave the dollars to fund education at the state level. Each state can allocate funding. Pre-college curriculum and standards should be set at the local level.
Get Big Brother out of the business of indoctrinating our kids!
Yes, and the restrictions placed on tax exempt institutions (i.e.churches).
I don’t think the Free Speech Zones were a part of the discussion. The focus was on Carson’s proposal of monitoring political speech I college classrooms and using the Dept. of Education to do it. Bad idea.
Taxpayer funding shouldn’t go to higher education, period. No government backed student loans either.
Let the colleges compete in the free market, and they will cut tuition costs and provide a better education.
YES! That is exactly what I’m saying.
The money is granted by the Federal government for education and ostensibly for “Arts and Sciences”. This gives the Federal government a fiduciary duty to ensure those goals are being met and not actually hindered as it is in some cases.
That being said, I think the best course of action is just to deny funding to organizations it wants to. Lets call it At-Will funding. Like At-Will employment.
Such bee freakin’ liberal ess... Carson’s policy is NO First Amendment violation at all. Professors are paid by taxpayers (State colleges) and student tuition and fees to TEACH not proselytize their politics! They can say all the crap they want, and no one will stop them (colleges violate First Amendment for conservatives ALL THE TIME!). But we don’t have to pay them to do their political indoctrinations on the people’s dime. Just like an employee gets fired for expressing their faith God (that ain’t their job)... you can fire DemWits liberals for expressing their political garbage... cause to liberals it IS their religion... what’s the difference?
It’s always a conundrum when the Constitution is used as a shield by people who have no qualms about denying its protection to others. Making the elimination of tenure a condition for any school to continue receiving tax dollars might be a place to start in weeding out the vermin infesting colleges and universities.
“Taxpayer funding shouldn’t go to higher education, period. No government backed student loans either.
Let the colleges compete in the free market, and they will cut tuition costs and provide a better education.”
And this position against the “free college for everyone” Bernie/Hillary platform?
This type of thing is needlessly shooting into one’s foot.
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